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Author Topic: The Reform of the neoSSPX  (Read 2860 times)

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Offline Matthew

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Re: The Reform of the neoSSPX
« Reply #15 on: Today at 09:58:16 PM »
You speak of "the reform of the neoSSPX" as if it's a thing -- as if such a reform exists.

How can you discuss something as if it's part of reality, when it's purely hypothetical?

There is no "reform of the neo-SSPX" in this reality. It would take a miracle for them to turn around.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Reform of the neoSSPX
« Reply #16 on: Today at 10:28:26 PM »
Now, I did really expect some return of neo-SSPX to the more paleo-SSPX attitude after the excommunication, since that largely scuttled any talks they were in and the compromises they felt they needed to make in order to continue them.  But no such luck.  Instead they appealed the excommunication .. which implies that it might have validity, since there's no need for them to lift a non-excommunication.  I felt also that they compromised on NO Holy Orders precisely because of the talks and they could now stop pretending.  But that hasn't happened either.


Online St Giles

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Re: The Reform of the neoSSPX
« Reply #17 on: Today at 11:09:46 PM »
Papal Teaching that meets the notes of infallbility must be believed with the certainty of faith.
Papal Teaching that does not meet the notes of infallibility must nevertheless be accepted with "internal religious assent".
Univeral Discipline mandated by the Pope must be obeyed.
Stuff the Pope says in other capacities (i.e. in an interview, sermon, etc.) needn't be accepted.
General commands of the Pope must be obeyed unless they are contrary to faith or morals.
Well, at least you seem to prove the middle ground right there.  We have Popes who don't engage infallibility, and rarely conform to faith and morals in their general commands, making one choose the salvation of souls over what they command.

I would elevate slightly a sermon from how you seem to classify it since it is supposed to be as Christ speaking during a sermon at Mass, though we know material heresy is possible by human frailty.