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Offline Marion

Re: The real issue between occasionally and never attending NO
« Reply #5 on: July 24, 2021, 03:33:45 PM »
Protestants sell their service as a protestant supper.

NO sell their supper as a Catholic Mass.
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Offline Miser Peccator

Re: The real issue between occasionally and never attending NO
« Reply #6 on: July 24, 2021, 04:33:15 PM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 24, 2021, 03:12:26 PM
It seems like emotion to me, but the best sense I can make of the underlying logic is that some people really do think it's more like a black mass.
I think the intention of those at a black mass are entirely different from most in attendance at the NO.
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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: The real issue between occasionally and never attending NO
« Reply #7 on: July 24, 2021, 06:05:48 PM »

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Satanic parody of Christ's sacrifice vs if its simply a Protestantized service.
Both are still a blasphemy.  Both are a fake sacrifice.  Both are anti-catholic.  Etc etc
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If you read +Ottaviani’s rebuke of the new mass (which is just a summary of problems), you’ll see why he called it anti-Trent.  This is proof enough that it’s offensive to God in a great way.  
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+Ottaviani’s study is free online. 
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Offline Yeti

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Re: The real issue between occasionally and never attending NO
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2021, 06:36:01 PM »
Any trad priest of any background will give the same answer on this, since it is exactly the answer given in any book of moral theology. A person can attend a non-Catholic wedding or funeral if necessary for social purposes, i.e. if the person getting married/buried is a family member or friend. While attending such a ceremony, someone must not participate actively in the religious activities, but only remain passive, such as by sitting through the whole thing in the back of the church.
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A Novus Ordo service is a non-Catholic ceremony, and thus comes under the above rule.
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Anyone saying the Novus Ordo is some exception, such that it would still be a sin even to be passively present and not participating at a wedding or funeral, is incorrect and should be ignored.
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You don't have to trust me on this. You can ask any trad priest you want and you'll hear the same thing.
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Offline DigitalLogos

Re: The real issue between occasionally and never attending NO
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2021, 06:36:10 PM »
Quote from: ByzCat3000 on July 24, 2021, 03:12:26 PM
It seems like emotion to me, but the best sense I can make of the underlying logic is that some people really do think it's more like a black mass.
I can see why people would think that, given it's Freemasonic roots in man-centric worship. Plus the potential for those NO services that may have a valid consecration (mainly in those few offered by the remaining valid priests) of an end towards sacrilege.

But, in my opinion, I don't think the creators of the NOM specifically had sacrilege in mind like a Black Mass would. I think the aim was more to dilute and kill the Faith of Catholics and remove the Real Presence over time, especially with the extremely doubtful new rite of the consecration of Bishops which followed. It is most satanic in an implicit way, rather than explicit such as with a Black Mass.
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