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Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: the Quinity?
« Reply #25 on: November 21, 2020, 06:03:39 PM »
Notice these missals mention the bells ringing 3x.  Not 1-3-1.  Not 5x.  Only 3x. 
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I've often seen (in fact, I've only seen) altar boys with altar bells--three bells connected together! 
Exactly.  And this corresponds with the 3 actions of the priest - genuflection - elevation - genuflection.  It's not that complicated.
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The liturgical differences can only be attributed to european customs...

Offline Mark 79

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« Reply #26 on: November 23, 2020, 01:30:24 PM »
@Matthew

Is this a trad forum or not?

If it is a trad forum, is it legitimate to discuss rubrics of the trad Mass, including the bells?

Further, both the Stedman's and the St. Andrew Missals (as posted above) blow your "never" to hell.

Even though you were wrong, this tempest-in-a-teapot is hardly worth your typical over-reaction.


Offline Matthew

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« Reply #27 on: November 23, 2020, 01:37:58 PM »
@Matthew

Is this a trad forum or not?

If it is a trad forum, is it legitimate to discuss rubrics of the trad Mass, including the bells?

Further, both the Stedman's and the St. Andrew Missals (as posted above) blow your "never" to hell.

Even though you were wrong, this tempest-in-a-teapot is hardly worth your typical over-reaction.


1. Who is over-reacting? Who just posted like 10 times in a row, having clearly spent hours on it, scanning and posting pages from various missals? Give me a break.
2. Yes, this is a trad forum. Any other childish questions you need answers to?
3. Who said this thread should be deleted or purged? Certainly not me. The thread still exists doesn't it? I obviously have no problem with it.
4. I still hold that this is a tempest in a teapot. You haven't proven me wrong here. Or have you demonstrated that this is critical to the Faith of Catholics, and I missed it? Trads have much more serious things to worry about than the CUSTOM of how many bells to ring at Mass. Those missals just express the local custom, they aren't rubrics or dogma. Only the Missale Romanum is official. Hand-missals for laymen just put into printed form the rubrics *as well as the most common local customs*.

Offline Matthew

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Re: the Quinity?
« Reply #28 on: November 23, 2020, 01:40:13 PM »
@Matthew

Further, both the Stedman's and the St. Andrew Missals (as posted above) blow your "never" to hell.


Actually, your scans are ambiguous at best. It says the bell rings thrice. WHEN, MY GOOD MAN? It doesn't say. It is ambiguous. Do they mean at the Elevation of the Host itself? That's how I would interpret that. The other two rings at the genuflections must be local custom?

Your blowing my never to hell can go to hell.

I continue to maintain that the various missals are ambiguous at best. And that it DOESN'T MATTER.

Offline Pax Vobis

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Re: the Quinity?
« Reply #29 on: November 23, 2020, 01:45:51 PM »
The only rubrics that matter are the ones in the ACTUAL priest's missal.  The layman's missal isn't designed to be explanatory in this aspect.