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Robert Francis Prevost elected by the putative College of Cardinals in conclave on 8 May 2025 and assuming the regnal name of Leon XIV is:

The Bishop of Rome and Supreme Pontiff of the universal Church, therefore a valid, licit, and formal Pope.
6 (13.6%)
A material Pope and merely an administrator of the Roman See, having obtained valid election but lacking one or elements necessary for him to obtain the Petrine Office Himself.
13 (29.5%)
A usurper and pretender claimant of the Papal Office whilst another valid and truly hold the Petrine Office, being therefore an Antipope.
0 (0%)
A usurper, heretical, and criminal claimant of the Papal Office, being therefore a False Pope.
16 (36.4%)
I am not sure.
9 (20.5%)

Total Members Voted: 44

Voting closed: May 12, 2025, 06:39:21 AM

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Offline MiracleOfTheSun

Re: The Question of the Papal Claimant
« Reply #35 on: May 09, 2025, 05:14:33 PM »
I mean, the apple ain't gonna fall too far from the tree.  Anyone really think things are going to turn around now and Vatican II will get dumped?
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Question of the Papal Claimant
« Reply #36 on: May 09, 2025, 05:15:50 PM »
Quote from: MiracleOfTheSun on May 09, 2025, 05:14:33 PM
I mean, the apple ain't gonna fall to far from the tree.  Anyone really think things are going to turn around now and Vatican II will get dumped?

Right ... Bergoglio would not have appointed to high rank in the Conciliar Church anyone with a Traditional bone in his body.
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Offline Giovanni Berto

Re: The Question of the Papal Claimant
« Reply #37 on: May 09, 2025, 10:01:12 PM »
Why people think that we have anything different happening? It puzzles me.

The game has been going on since 1958. If the man is miraculously a good and Catholic Pope, we will soon know. Every single piece of evidence we have indicates that he is just the same as all the others. 
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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Question of the Papal Claimant
« Reply #38 on: May 09, 2025, 10:04:06 PM »
Quote from: Giovanni Berto on May 09, 2025, 10:01:12 PM
Why people think that we have anything different happening? It puzzles me.

The game has been going on since 1958. If the man is miraculously a good and Catholic Pope, we will soon know. Every single piece of evidence we have indicates that he is just the same as all the others.

Trad, Inc. are pushing in that direction.

It's really all about your paradigm of the Conciliar Revolution.  Is this about Liberal vs. Conservative in the Church?

No, the Church has been taken over and it's as much just kayfabe in the Conciliar Church as it is in the US government.
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Offline 2Vermont

Re: The Question of the Papal Claimant
« Reply #39 on: May 11, 2025, 06:37:11 AM »
For those who chose "I am not sure", I would be interested in knowing why...if you don't mind explaining.
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