I think she is just frustrated with the mean things, sedevacantists keep saying to her.  I don't know. I don't know her personally.

That is true and I thank you, but we must also correct error and admonish those who spread falsehoods. Sometimes sarcasm can be used to demonstrate the point, if I over used sarcasm or was overly uncharitable, I apologize.

I hope that you don’t attack. When I read your posts about the failures of men and your weeping on the sidelines, I imagined a melodrama. That image was the closest I could find to illustrate. I suppose I might be a bit weird. I think that if knowing Church History there should be no surprises. You know, nothing new under the sun.

As for the fighting, No, I just take it with a pinch of salt. Mostly I ignore it unless something jumps out at me which I can’t ignore, like blatantly false teaching.

I think she is just frustrated with the mean things, sedevacantists keep saying to her.  I don't know. I don't know her personally.

I do understand where you are coming from.  But i think what you see as dishing back, she sees as meaness.  But again i am just guessing.

Thank you Gray. They know that it is not I who attack first. Honesty is not what they practice. Evidently, the ends justify any means necessary to convert everyone to SVism.

I defend my right to not be a sedevacantist, which is offensive to some here. I've said many times that I don't have a problem with anyone holding the sedevacantist position, but when they try to force it on others, I see that as a problem.

You are correct to say that we should stop all this fighting. But when one side believes it has to force its views on everyone else, that's a problem. Not all sedevacantists do this of course.

Aren’t you?

Gray, it seems like you came onto this forum with finger pointed and an ax to grind. On one hand you say you are sad and sensitive to the strife in the trad community, yet after reading your posts over the past week they seem to have a rather bossy and aggressive tone. Am I understanding this wrong?

Several good men have offered you an explanation about the strife and what it will take to fix it, which is a good pope. The fact is, the disagreements and infighting is sadly a part of the cross we must bear. You don’t seem to want to accept this answer. Your tears and mourning are only meritorious as far as your resignation and trust in God’s care for you and others goes.  Maybe I have/am overstepping my bounds but I think you have let this topic overcome you. It is not in your control and the more you strive to make it so the more miserable you will become. I think you have internalized this too much. I know you are melancholic. I think melancholic need to be extra careful about this.

Do I get frustrated at the bickering and mud slinging that goes on from time to time here? Yes. But we are all called to look at our own interior actions and disposition. I’m not sure yours is any healthier than those who you accuse of being rash and unkind.

Please, I mean this in the best way possible. I’m not trying to attack you. Just stating my observations. God bless you!