Author Topic: The Pope Doesnt believe in the Resurrection of the Body???? (Read 27067 times)

Alexandria · « **Reply #315 on:** November 05, 2010, 12:09:33 PM »

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Right here on li'l ol' Cathinfo we have and have had some of these people, on both sides of the aisle.

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Alexandria · « **Reply #316 on:** November 05, 2010, 12:19:54 PM »

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Is he just another victim too, of modernist seminaries, liturgical experiments, indifferentist ecuмenism, and obfuscating superiors? To what extent can a man in his position be judged to be a mere "victim"? I wish I knew. Or maybe I already do.

he was born in Germany in the 20's, sa-yes, likely he was from youth indoctrinated by modernists ideas, as Germany seems to always lead the way in heretical ideas.....hence, his now middle of the road appraoch to things...strengthened by the 60's,etc

Undoubtedly so, Belloc, and again, if he were just an average Sunday pew-warmer I wouldn't be surprised that he holds the beliefs that he does. I myself at one time believed things so absurd that now it would give me great shame to even mention them.

But...I'm not the Pope. I have to wonder to what extent is his ignorance willful and malicious or just casual and innocent. That God is using him to achieve some end I have no doubt. I don't mean to throw stones at the man, or his predecessor, but some of the things they've said and done really call into question their integrity, and that of the hundreds of cardinals who voted for them. Are all of these people really that ignorant of the Faith? Do they all have such feeble prayer lives that none has had his mind opened by the Holy Spirit? I prayed a little bit for guidance, after years of sin and stupidity, and the Holy Ghost and the BVM came quickly to my aid, and steered me to the True Church. Why don't They do the same for men who purport to lead millions of others in the Faith?

The majority of the cardinals in the Vatican, as well as the current pope and his VII predecessors, know the faith. Benedict in particular is well aware of the traditional Catholic faith. They have chosen to improve upon it with their brilliancy and avant garde theology rather than hand down what they were given.

I have no qualms about saying this because it is a fact that all of the VII popes were trained in the "old school" theology. They all knew/know better. I often think, too, what pride to exchange the tried and true for your wacky ideas thought up by some theologians who were too smart for their own good.

And now, this dilettante (thank you, Caminus http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=12894&f=9&min=20&num=20, for putting us all in our places!), will step down from her box. :soapbox:

Alexandria · « **Reply #317 on:** November 05, 2010, 12:21:05 PM »

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Quote from: St Jude Thaddeus
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Is he just another victim too, of modernist seminaries, liturgical experiments, indifferentist ecuмenism, and obfuscating superiors? To what extent can a man in his position be judged to be a mere "victim"? I wish I knew. Or maybe I already do.

he was born in Germany in the 20's, sa-yes, likely he was from youth indoctrinated by modernists ideas, as Germany seems to always lead the way in heretical ideas.....hence, his now middle of the road appraoch to things...strengthened by the 60's,etc

Undoubtedly so, Belloc, and again, if he were just an average Sunday pew-warmer I wouldn't be surprised that he holds the beliefs that he does. I myself at one time believed things so absurd that now it would give me great shame to even mention them.

But...I'm not the Pope. I have to wonder to what extent is his ignorance willful and malicious or just casual and innocent. That God is using him to achieve some end I have no doubt. I don't mean to throw stones at the man, or his predecessor, but some of the things they've said and done really call into question their integrity, and that of the hundreds of cardinals who voted for them. Are all of these people really that ignorant of the Faith? Do they all have such feeble prayer lives that none has had his mind opened by the Holy Spirit? I prayed a little bit for guidance, after years of sin and stupidity, and the Holy Ghost and the BVM came quickly to my aid, and steered me to the True Church. Why don't They do the same for men who purport to lead millions of others in the Faith?

These guys were hand picked, they are sheeps in wolves clothing, who said, "You will know them by their fruits"...?

The fruits are results of THEM....

It matters not how they were "picked", God allowed it. He could have stopped it, but He did not.

Dawn · « **Reply #318 on:** November 05, 2010, 12:30:25 PM »

That is the plain and simple truth Alexandria. God allows this for His own purpose. The vision of Pope Leo saw Satan asking for power and God answered yes, but for so long only. So, Satan's minions are controlling Rome. But, look closely. We will see that they are not controlling the REAL CHURCH. No, in fact that could not happen. So, they created a New Religion at Vatican II. Where they REAL faith is Christ centered, the new religion the ape of the true Church being run by satan's hand-picked spawn in man centered. The True Faith is there for anyone to see, being carefully guarded by the very few True Priests and Bishops in the world.

Alexandria · « **Reply #319 on:** November 05, 2010, 03:36:27 PM »

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Post-Vatican II Council Teaching:
Pope Benedict XVI:
The biblical pronouncements about the resurrection: their essential content is not the conception of a restoration of bodies to souls after a long interfval…. (Pope Benedict XVI, the then Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, Prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Principles of Catholic Theology (2004), p. 353)

Pre-Vatican II Council Teaching:
Pope Gregory X:
The same most holy Roman Church firmly believes, and firmly declares that nevertheless on the day of judgment all men will be brought together with their bodies before the tribunal of Christ to render an account of their own deeds. (Pope Gregory X, Council of Lyons II, 1274, Henry Denzinger, Enchiridion Symbolorum, The Sources of Catholic Dogma, B. Herder Book Co., Thirtieth Edition, 1957, #464)

This is quite serious then.

Very grateful to you TKGS (and you, too, Ora Pro Me for asking him) for this.