Author Topic: The Pope Doesnt believe in the Resurrection of the Body???? (Read 36963 times)

Belloc · « **Reply #290 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:41:46 PM »

far as I know, works like this:

you die and are immediately judged, going to heaven, hell or Purgatory....
your body is planted in ground, vault,etc.

At Christ's return, the just are given new bodies, joined with their immortal souls.
the damned, their souls and bodies, likely those they died with, rotten, diseased infested, arthritic,etc.

Those alive and walking the earth when Christ come back are judged then in General Judgment, as is the race of man in general...the just get their glorified bodies after teh dead get theirs, the evil, same thing, they get what they have....

simple, really and nto sure what mumbo-jumbo b16, et al are saying...

havea friend that has left the Fide, he gets hung up on all these metaphysical, mystic nuances.....right now, troubled over "is hell eternal" and "is the soul naturally immortal vs natural vs naturally immortal"...my response, wh ocares!! hell is eternal, for all time you go there or the opposite direction...who really cares if your sould was eternal prior to your body created or not....I have a soul, it goes on for ever, even after death because God says so...

Him, B16,et al getting that hung up in nuances and trying to wear everythign down to some atomic level, geesh.....

Alexandria · « **Reply #291 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:48:09 PM »

Quote from: Belloc

far as I know, works like this:

you die and are immediately judged, going to heaven, hell or Purgatory....
your body is planted in ground, vault,etc.

At Christ's return, the just are given new bodies, joined with their immortal souls.
the damned, their souls and bodies, likely those they died with, rotten, diseased infested, arthritic,etc.

Those alive and walking the earth when Christ come back are judged then in General Judgment, as is the race of man in general...the just get their glorified bodies after teh dead get theirs, the evil, same thing, they get what they have....

simple, really and nto sure what mumbo-jumbo b16, et al are saying...

havea friend that has left the Fide, he gets hung up on all these metaphysical, mystic nuances.....right now, troubled over "is hell eternal" and "is the soul naturally immortal vs natural vs naturally immortal"...my response, wh ocares!! hell is eternal, for all time you go there or the opposite direction...who really cares if your sould was eternal prior to your body created or not....I have a soul, it goes on for ever, even after death because God says so...

Him, B16,et al getting that hung up in nuances and trying to wear everythign down to some atomic level, geesh.....

Yes, I know all of that as that is what I was taught. What I am asking is whether any Catholic before B16 and the VII debacle ever thought like this.

I agree with you...who cares? Will it make a difference in the end, all of these nuances and distinctions? What is B16's point in doing all of this? Has it helped clarify the faith for anyone? All it does it fog things up all the more. Better to be a simpleton that to be an intellectual, at least that is the conclusion that I have come to.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #292 on:** November 03, 2010, 02:51:46 PM »

Hey Belloc

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thanks, too to Myrna, for reviving the old "non-SV are not Catholic" mantra too, for you as usual prove a point and not even trying to!!

How do you even know what I am trying to do?

Maybe wake YOU up?!

Alexandria · « **Reply #293 on:** November 03, 2010, 03:05:42 PM »

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Hey Belloc
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thanks, too to Myrna, for reviving the old "non-SV are not Catholic" mantra too, for you as usual prove a point and not even trying to!!

How do you even know what I am trying to do?

Maybe wake YOU up?!

Belloc, I think she is trying to wake me up! :wink:

Myrna, I would be terrified to be so certain as you are. For a Catholic to be saved, he/she must submit to the Pope. What if there is a chance you are wrong? In order to be so certain, you would have to sit down with Benedict and have a chat with him and ask him pointed questions regarding what he really believes and what he actually meant. I tell you these things as this is what stops me from being a paid up, card carrying sede.

I agree with you, Myrna, that it does not look good for him at all. But I find it very hard to believe that he is doing this with a malicious intent. Only someone controlled by Satan would do a thing like that.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #294 on:** November 03, 2010, 03:36:05 PM »

Alexandria, I am certain because I was taught that one Pope can not contradict a previous Pope in matters of Faith and Morals, and this is what you see over and over with these guys.

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malicious intent. Only someone controlled by Satan would do a thing like that.

You said it!