Francis Blasts Abortion Ater Decrying Focus on Rules

VATICAN CITY (AP) — Pope Francis offered an olive branch of sorts to the doctrine-minded, conservative wing of the Catholic Church on Friday as he denounced abortions as a symptom of today's "throw-away culture" and encouraged ["encouraged," not "forbade under pain of excommunication"] Catholic doctors to refuse to perform them.

Francis issued a strong anti-abortion message and cited Vatican teaching on the need to defend the unborn during an audience with Catholic gynecologists.

It came a day after he was quoted as blasting the church's obsession with "small-minded rules" that are driving the faithful [they're anything but faithful] away. In an interview that has sent shockwaves through the church, Francis urged its pastors to focus on being merciful and welcoming rather than insisting only on such divisive, hot-button issues as abortion, gαy marriage and contraception ["divisive" only because apostates have lost the Faith - if they ever possessed it].

Even before the interview was published, some conservatives had voiced disappointment that Francis had shied away from restating such church rules. Francis explained his reason for doing so in the interview with the Jesuit journal La Civilta Cattolica, saying church teaching on such issues is well-known, he supports it, but that he doesn't feel it necessary to repeat it constantly.

He did repeat it on Friday, however. In his comments, Francis denounced today's "throw-away culture" that justifies disposing of lives, and said doctors in particular had been forced into situations where they are called to "not respect life." ["forced"? Please!]

"Every child that isn't born, but is unjustly condemned to be aborted, has the face of Jesus Christ, has the face of the Lord," he said.

He urged the gynecologists to abide by their consciences and help bring lives into the world. "Things have a price and can be for sale, but people have a dignity that is priceless and worth far more than things," he said. [pure gobbledygook]

Francis' comments to Civilta Cattolica contained no change in church teaching [as if he's allowed to change Church teaching on such issues - not that that would stop him from trying], but they represented a radical shift in tone and stood in stark contrast to the priorities of his two immediate predecessors.

John Paul II and Benedict XVI were both intellectuals [that's questionable - and a bit laugable] for whom doctrine was paramount [Satanic doctrine, yes], an orientation that guided the selection of a generation of bishops and cardinals who, in countries like the United States, have put themselves on the front lines in opposing abortion and gαy marriage. They now find themselves being asked to preach more to those who have fallen away from the church and offer them a compassionate welcome home.

Greg Burke, the Vatican's senior communications adviser, insisted Friday that Francis was by no means calling into question the papacies and priorities of his predecessors [I certainly call into question the "papacies" since October 1958].

"The pope is not condemning his predecessors," Burke told The Associated Press. "What he is saying is 'We've spent a lot of time talking about the boundaries. We've spent a lot of time talking about what is sin and what's not. Now let's move on. Let's talk about mercy. Let's talk about love.'"[Note: Not "charity," but "love." Modernist-speak.]

Dublin Archbishop Diarmuid Martin, Ireland's most reform-minded Catholic leader, said Francis' comments will be tough for the church to put into action because there is a tendency to get "trapped" into the right and wrong, white and black of Catholic teaching ["Trapped" into Catholic teaching. Beautiful! :rolleyes:]

"It's a way of thinking that will actually be very hard for the right and the left of the church, either of them, to accept," he told RTE radio. [There is no "right" and "left" in the Church, only Catholics.] But he said Francis wasn't dismissing everything that has been taught to date.

"He's saying let's move in a different direction." [Oh, he's proven that!]

Bishop Thomas Tobin of Providence, Rhode Island, just last week had said in an interview with his diocesan newspaper that he was "a little bit disappointed" that Francis hadn't spoken out about abortion. On Friday, in an official statement responding to the La Civilta Cattolica article, Tobin said he admired Francis' leadership.

"Being a Catholic doesn't mean having to choose between doctrine and charity, between truth and love. It includes both. We are grateful to Pope Francis for reminding us of that vision," he said.

U.S. Cardinal Timothy Dolan, who as head of the U.S. Conference of Catholic Bishops has taken a lead role in voicing the U.S. church's opposition to contraception and gαy marriage, said the church isn't the only one obsessed with such issues — today's culture is.

"Every pope has a different strategy," Dolan told "CBS This Morning." ''What I think he's saying is, 'Those are important issues and the church has got to keep talking about them, but we need to talk about them in a fresh new way. If we keep kind of a negative finger-wagging tone, it's counterproductive. "

He said that while Francis had sent shockwaves throughout the church, clearly it was necessary.

"Every day I think, 'Thank God he was elected.' ... Every day I say, 'This man is batting a thousand.'" [Chuckles the "Cardinal" never disappoints! ]

SOURCE: http://news.yahoo.com/pope-blasts-abortion-decrying-focus-rules-131410774.html

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Sorry for the Mr. Z-style redlining. My only thought when I read this garbage is this: "Come out of her, My people, and partake not of her sins."

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My only thought when I read this garbage is this: "Come out of her, My people, and partake not of her sins."

This line of Holy Scripture has lost all meaning to me. I've heard protestants use it against Catholics so many times that, when said by a SV, my brain automatically associates them with some uneducated and shoeless baptist. SV's need to find new "buzz words" (Francis is good at those!), because any non-sede who comes across a SV will think the SV movement is just another protestant end times sect created in the good ole United Sects of America.


I don't mean to derail the thread, but it reminded me of:

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"I am extremely sorry to find how much the Word of God is abused; how it is turned into wretched rhymes, sung and jangled in every ale house and tavern; and all this in a false construction and counter meaning to the inspired writers. I am sorry to perceive the readers of the Bible discover so little of it in their practice; for I am sure charity was never in a more languishing condition, virtue never at a lower ebb, or God Himself less honored or worse served in Christendom." - Henry VIII

And to say B16 and JP2 weren't intellectuals because you disagree with them is asinine. How many doctorates do you hold? How many languages do you speak?

JP2's writing style was pure jibberish and, for the most part, so was B16.  They hold the doctorates but we don't see the signs of intellect in the writing - unless they wrote jibberish for the masses but more precise stuff in their private writings.   As for languages, don't almost all Europeans speak multiple languages?  However, let's set that aside for a moment.  In what way was JPII strong on doctrine?  Same with B16.  

"The pope is not condemning his predecessors," Burke told The Associated Press. "What he is saying is 'We've spent a lot of time talking about the boundaries. We've spent a lot of time talking about what is sin and what's not. Now let's move on. Let's talk about mercy. Let's talk about love.'"[Note: Not "charity," but "love." Modernist-speak.]

This is how these guys in the Vatican play the media.  Since Vatican II, there has not been any particular emphasis on sins to the point that most novus ordites think sin is passe.  First, they spend decades deliberately being "loose" on judgement, then when it's time to alter things further, they come out with the whole "we need to loosen up" approach.

So, the don't talk about sin, and they DO NOT take action against the continual spread of laws permitting abortion in the nations of the world (within days of the last WYD, Brazil legalized abortion!).  The pope could publicly declare that anyone who participates in abortion, whether the receiver of the treatment, the provider of the treatment or the one funding the treatment, is automatically excommunicated and this is a reserved sin.  Sure, we can all say "that goes without saying" but it doesn't go without saying.  Without saying, the only thing going on is more and more abortions.  If the pope makes a public statement, then everyone has been warned publicly.  

Archbishop LeFebrvre rightly pointed out that in his travels, JPII often attracted crowds but that after he left there never was a blossoming of Catholicism and this is double true with F1.    

"The pope is not condemning his predecessors," Burke told The Associated Press. "What he is saying is 'We've spent a lot of time talking about the boundaries. We've spent a lot of time talking about what is sin and what's not. Now let's move on. Let's talk about mercy. Let's talk about love.'

Really?  

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This line of Holy Scripture has lost all meaning to me. I've heard protestants use it against Catholics so many times that, when said by a SV, my brain automatically associates them with some uneducated and shoeless baptist. SV's need to find new "buzz words" (Francis is good at those!), because any non-sede who comes across a SV will think the SV movement is just another protestant end times sect created in the good ole United Sects of America.

A line of Holy Scripture is merely "buzz words" and "has lost all meaning to [you]," huh?  Just because a bunch of prots misuse it, you're ready to play like the line doesn't exist or has no meaning?