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Offline Kephapaulos

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The Novus Ordo and religious experiences
« on: October 05, 2014, 11:37:37 PM »
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  • What are we to make of when a supposed miracle or a supposed spiritual blessing is thought to have happened in the Novus Ordo? I mean are they just occasions for God in His Providence for bringing people toward the Truth? The thing is though is that so many in the Novus Ordo still remain in it and do not end up coming to Catholic Tradition at this point. I just find it so mind-boggling still since there are good people in the Novus Ordo who would be great traditional Catholics.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)

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    « Reply #1 on: October 06, 2014, 12:20:30 AM »
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  • As a layman in my 60's I remember the pre and the post vatican 2 church.  My
    experience with the vatican 2 church beginning with the changes beginning on
    the first Sunday of Advent in 1964, and introduction of new changes almost on
    a weekly basic never was a spiritual and supernatural experience.  Had a
    message, if you do not like the changes, than get out and find an another
    church. It drove me out for over a decade in which I dropped all
    religious practices.
    I returned to the church in the 1980's and decided to drive the extra miles
    to a Traditional Mass in which I did first to Garden Grove, than to San Pedro.
    But remember, those that still remember the church in the pre vatican 2 era
    are thinning out because of years. A whole new generation has grown and
    see the 1960's as ancient history. The younger people born after 1960 that
    are attracted to Traditional Catholicism have the supernatural grace. And this
    is proof that The Holy Ghost still protects the church.

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    « Reply #2 on: October 06, 2014, 01:16:28 AM »
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  • No amount of miracles or supernatural experiences can salvage the Novus Ordo because the problem itself is internal, substantial, in the core. You are dealing with a new church entirely.

    You may as well ask what would you do if you witnessed true miracles in any other sect.

    Nothing, that's what.

    A miracle won't make Vatican 2 or error or heresy or apostasy go away.

    I actually know of something like a miracle that goes on in the NO. I have witnessed it. It has to do with the Mystic Rose Virgin or devotion. The people pray and then suddenly they get glitter out of nowhere on their hands and other places. Some people get more than others.

    My fiance told me about this because she witnessed it when she was in the NO and it happened to her. When she was already converted to the true Faith, she tried it out to see if she could show me and it happened, she got glitter on her hands all of a sudden.

    But her mom gets this glitter thing too and she is an adulterer and a total liberal.

    So does anyone else in the NO who does this. They are all living immoral lives and are steeped in error and yet they get this glitter thing.


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