Author Topic: The Midwife of Vatican II (Read 33707 times)

roscoe · « **Reply #285 on:** October 20, 2009, 08:29:23 PM »

And I am not going to either. I orig posted that Chadwick's book states-- in 1913 the four popes were recognised by St Pius as anti-popes.

You replied stating that is incorrect and that they were declared anti-popes b4 that. The links you posted confirmed that it happened in 1907.

What is the big deal? The fact is that it was not until the Papacy of St Pius that the anti-popes were declared. 1907 or 13 it still took 600 yrs to straighten out the mess and all that time those popes were recognised as licit.

It is true that I agree with U that Ben 15 is an anti-pope but where he taught public heresy is out of my territory as I am not a theologian. Let me guess-- you assert he was ( like Card Bellarmine) a Bod heretic.

If not, what was the public heresy he taught that should have been recognised by the subsequent Popes?

I'll get to your MJ post after I have had a few tokes later on this evening. Ciao

CM · « **Reply #286 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:17:51 PM »

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And I am not going to either...

You said I played a dirty trick and you were wrong. I have proved it twice, and you won't apologize. Imagine my surprise.

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If not, what was the public heresy he taught that should have been recognised by the subsequent Popes?

It's all right here. Note the absence of BoD.

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I'll get to your MJ post after I have had a few tokes later on this evening. Ciao

Just don't get high (you don't do you?), that would definitely be a sinful intention.

CM · « **Reply #287 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:19:43 PM »

How do the Beatles sound when you're smoking up but not high? Hypnotically anti-christian, sɛҳuąƖ or communist?

...naw... couldn't be.

roscoe · « **Reply #288 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:35:49 PM »

I am not qualified to evaluate whether Ben 15 taught public heresy. My thought that he is an anti-pope is based mainly on the idea his election is fraudulent. The 1914 conclave is even stranger than the abdication of St Celestine imo and I do not see how Della Chiesa is a truely elected Pope.

There is no authority proclaiming it sinful to get 'high'-- a little closer to heaven by taking a few tokes on MJ.

...even the green herbs have I given you.

CM · « **Reply #289 on:** October 20, 2009, 09:50:18 PM »

Oh yeah? How is getting high different from getting drunk? They are the same, and both mortally sinful if done knowingly and intentionally.

He did, after all, give us wine too. Or do you think that getting drunk is not a mortal sin?