Author Topic: The Midwife of Vatican II (Read 30160 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #1 on:** October 09, 2009, 08:58:24 PM »

I have no reason to doubt that there were MANY problems during Pius XII's reign, some of which were his own doing.

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #2 on:** October 09, 2009, 09:03:28 PM »

That bit about the nuclear bomb being a contribution to the cause of peace is, well, INSANE.

SJB · « **Reply #3 on:** October 09, 2009, 10:51:10 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

Does anyone get how BIG this NFP disaster is? Have you read about how widespread it has become within Novus Ordo parishes? And don't tell me that they have gone too far with it while among sedevacantists it's okay for "grave reasons" -- anyone can come up with grave reasons, if given the excuse to do so.

This is a little rash isn't it? You haven't even made any distinction between a grave reason and no reason. You assume that one LEADS to the other. That is really stupid.

roscoe · « **Reply #4 on:** October 10, 2009, 12:49:51 AM »

Pius XII never said that the Nuc Bomb was a contribution to the cause of peace.