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Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #25 on: March 08, 2023, 07:45:19 AM »
The pastor was ordained by a Maronite bishop, so you're good. He is a former Episcopalian that was received directly into that rite.

Maronite convert leads city parish (southcoasttoday.com)

It's rather unfortunate that for such a large city, the liturgical options are awful.

LOL ... I like to look one generation more, to see the origins of said Maronite Bishop.  If you could get his name, he could be looked up on catholic-hierarchy.org.  As a rule, they tend not to pick bishops from priests who had come over from other Rites, but I know of one Ruthenian bishop who had been ordained an NO priest.

In any case, he doesn't have Lebanese/Arabic background himself, so even less reason to feel awkward, and it said this about his church:
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"So many Roman Catholics came to worship and fell in love with Maronite spirituality," Father Jack said. "Ninety percent of the parish were Latin Catholics."

This is undoubtedly due to people fleeing the NO and the NOM, and not just because they "fell in love with Maronite spirituality".  So at least you're probably looking at more conservative types, who had enough Catholic sense to walk away from the NO.  I was told the same thing by one Ukrainian Rite priest from the Pittsburgh area, that most of his church were refugees from the Roman Rite who "didn't like the changes of Vatican II."

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #26 on: March 08, 2023, 08:59:35 AM »
LOL ... I like to look one generation more, to see the origins of said Maronite Bishop.  If you could get his name, he could be looked up on catholic-hierarchy.org.  As a rule, they tend not to pick bishops from priests who had come over from other Rites, but I know of one Ruthenian bishop who had been ordained an NO priest.
Their bishop is Bishop Gregory John Mansour
https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bmansou.html

Ordained by Bp. John George Chedid, consecrated by Nasrallah Boutros Cardinal Sfeir, all Melkite, so the orders are good.

In any case, he doesn't have Lebanese/Arabic background himself, so even less reason to feel awkward, and it said this about his church:
This is undoubtedly due to people fleeing the NO and the NOM, and not just because they "fell in love with Maronite spirituality".  So at least you're probably looking at more conservative types, who had enough Catholic sense to walk away from the NO.  I was told the same thing by one Ukrainian Rite priest from the Pittsburgh area, that most of his church were refugees from the Roman Rite who "didn't like the changes of Vatican II."
That'll be interesting to find out. I'm sure there will be more traditionally-minded folks there just on the basis of legitimate Holy Orders.


Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #27 on: March 08, 2023, 11:38:40 AM »

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #28 on: March 08, 2023, 01:18:37 PM »
There is a Maronite Catholic church in Fayetteville, St Michael the Archangel:

https://www.stmichaelsmaronite.net/
I found some of their streams on Facebook of Divine Liturgy.  It doesn't seem intolerable, like a "good" NOM. The music is not great, but I don't really care about that anyway (I won't lie, I find some of the Latin choirs come across as a little overlong and self-indulgent at times during TLM). No terrible abuses from what I skimmed, communion under both species so no communion in the hand.

https://fb.watch/j8CaR5QYmY/

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2023, 05:12:04 PM »
My uncle and Godfather received Last Rites from a Maronite priest when my aunt searched high and low for a priest from her own (Roman rite) parish and diocese.  Literally nobody would come and he was dying.  He was requesting a priest whenever he was lucid.  A neighbor from a few blocks away came over with a few pieces of mail inadvertently sent to his home, (last names were similar and they had similar street addresses). She and her husband were from Lebanon and went to a small Maronite Church that got going in the mid-1980’s.  The priest was more than willing.  My uncle went to confession, received Communion, fell asleep and died that night in his sleep.