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Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #5 on: March 06, 2023, 11:04:28 PM »
I came across this article, it seems like the Maronite has truly become the NOM of the East.

https://www.newliturgicalmovement.org/2021/09/the-maronite-liturgys-corruption-under.html?m=1
This really answered my own question.

Upon further reflection of this article, my outrage is comparable to the hack job they did to the Roman rite with the NOM. There were elements, such as the recitation of Psalm 50 which had existed in the liturgy since the 5th century, that were completely removed to accommodate for Bugninian opposition to repetition.

Even if it were valid (in the sense of Holy Orders, technically a post-BXVI NOM would be "valid" if performed by a traditionally-ordained priest), I couldn't in good conscience attend it knowing now how they butchered the liturgy. :facepalm:

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #6 on: March 06, 2023, 11:27:18 PM »
Orders, technically a post-BXVI NOM would be "valid" if performed by a traditionally-ordained priest), I couldn't in good conscience attend it knowing now how they butchered the liturgy. :facepalm:
COULD* be valid, depending on intention which as the Ottaviani intervention points out is no longer implied by the Novus ordo missal. 


Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #7 on: March 07, 2023, 06:30:39 AM »
This really answered my own question.

Upon further reflection of this article, my outrage is comparable to the hack job they did to the Roman rite with the NOM. There were elements, such as the recitation of Psalm 50 which had existed in the liturgy since the 5th century, that were completely removed to accommodate for Bugninian opposition to repetition.

Even if it were valid (in the sense of Holy Orders, technically a post-BXVI NOM would be "valid" if performed by a traditionally-ordained priest), I couldn't in good conscience attend it knowing now how they butchered the liturgy. :facepalm:
I can vouch for Maronite Rite being modernized like the novus ordo.  I remember that when I was a teenager my family was invited to a baptism at such a place.  We decided to go to the liturgy before hand.  I remember thinking that it was worse than the conservative novus ordo we went to and being very scandalized.

Many of the Eastern Rites have gone through modernizations similar to the novus ordo.  I have friends who will only go to the Ukrainian Eastern Rites for this reason.  It has been a long time since I have been to an Eastern Rite but I do remember going to a Ukrainian one back about 15 years ago and being amazed by the reverence at it and how similar it was in many ways to the traditional Latin Mass even though different.

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #8 on: March 07, 2023, 07:12:35 AM »
I can vouch for Maronite Rite being modernized like the novus ordo.  I remember that when I was a teenager my family was invited to a baptism at such a place.  We decided to go to the liturgy before hand.  I remember thinking that it was worse than the conservative novus ordo we went to and being very scandalized.

Many of the Eastern Rites have gone through modernizations similar to the novus ordo.  I have friends who will only go to the Ukrainian Eastern Rites for this reason.  It has been a long time since I have been to an Eastern Rite but I do remember going to a Ukrainian one back about 15 years ago and being amazed by the reverence at it and how similar it was in many ways to the traditional Latin Mass even though different.
Well, the other option I'd have for an Eastern liturgy is over an hour away, and that seems mostly licit (https://maps.app.goo.gl/TFL7ugoVFM2r3wFt6) with 3 SSPX chapels close to two hours away; and for whatever reason there are no sede chapels I know of anywhere in NC.

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #9 on: March 07, 2023, 08:44:52 AM »
Well, the other option I'd have for an Eastern liturgy is over an hour away, and that seems mostly licit (https://maps.app.goo.gl/TFL7ugoVFM2r3wFt6) with 3 SSPX chapels close to two hours away; and for whatever reason there are no sede chapels I know of anywhere in NC.
What part of NC will you be living?  Because I see a CMRI chapel near the border of northern SC in Greenville.