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Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #55 on: May 14, 2023, 12:44:31 PM »
Though I have a moral conviction that the novus ordo is NOT the Catholic Church, and that these "popes" of the VII council are not Catholics, and therefore not legitimate Vicars of Christ, I steadfastly refuse to call myself a sedevacantist.

A Catholic is a real being; hence it is logically and metaphysically proper to call oneself a Catholic. But properly speaking, there is no such thing as a sedevacantist. The term does not signify any real being. Thus it is improper and false to call oneself a sedevacantist; because by doing so one identifies with non-being.

Most unfortunately, this truth/distinction is never discussed; and Catholics are endlessly lured into the trap of making themselves out to be something they are not, and can never be.

It is perfectly reasonable to conclude that the See of Peter is occupied by an anti-pope. But this conclusion is an intellectual judgment, and no more. It is a judgment upon which one may base their practical and intellectual actions, but no more. A judgment is an act of the intellectual faculty. It is not a real being. The term sedevacantist, which is derived from a judgment that the See of Peter has been usurped or occupied by fakers, nevertheless cannot designate any real being; whereas the term "Catholic" most certainly designates a real being, namely a member of the Mystical Body of Christ.

Because people have fallen into the intellectual error of equating "sedevacantist" with real being, many of those calling themselves sedevacantist have made a mere judgment - and a merely human judgment at that - into their very religion. In certain persons who call themselves sedevacantist, this judgment has become a false identification which has supplanted the true identification of Catholic. 

It is metaphysically impossible to identity with a judgment. But how may there are who do so identify themselves. How can this not be a terrible source of division within the ranks of Catholics who strive to hold the Faith? It is just as harmful and divisive as anathematizing anyone who questions the legitimacy of the VII papal poseurs.

The term sedevancantism has been used since the usurpation of the Seat in 1958 as a label to brand Catholics who deny the “Hollywood jew-show” known as modern Rome.
 
Even Msgr Bugnini craftily asserted that doubters of the authority of Liturgical change took the position that the pope was not the pope.

“Sedevanctism” has become talismatic word used to paralyze thinking Catholics who question the schismatic church.

Re: The Maronite liturgy?
« Reply #56 on: May 31, 2023, 06:46:18 PM »
I'm largely ignorant of this liturgy but have seen it thrown around with disdain here. The area im looking to move would have a Maronite Church right in town (https://maps.app.goo.gl/5jUfrDSennhUJBsB6), but is it valid like the Tridentine or Eastern liturgies? Or to be avoided like the NOM?
It is a valid liturgy. Several parts of the mass, including the consecration, are in Aramaic and ancient Syriac. Communion is done by intinction, so there is no risk of profanation of the Eucharist by communion in the hand. However, there are lay 'lectors,' and in many places, there is a lack of reverence in church once mass is over. The priest also says Mass facing the people, similar if not identical to the New mass.