Author Topic: The Magnificat are not Christian? (Read 1163 times)

Canuk the Lionheart · « **on:** March 15, 2011, 05:55:21 PM »

In this post, I am referring to the "Apostols of Infinite Love" from Quebec. By definition, for one to be a Christian, one must recgonise the Divinity of Christ and the Holy Trinity. These "apostols" believe in the "quartrinity" of the Father, the Son, the Holy Spirit and the Holy mother of God! By definition, they are at "best" heretics and doubtfully Christian. Am I right?

TKGS · « **Reply #1 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:52:01 PM »

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Am I right?

I don't personally know anything of this group. However, any person who holds the beliefs that you describe is, as you say, at best a heretic. At worse, he is a pagan or apostate (if he had ever been a Christian).

It is odd, however, that many people today--especially bishops of the Conciliar Church--will almost never declare that a person is a heretic, that is, unless he's a traditional Catholic. In general, most people today consider anyone who says he's a Catholic to be a Catholic.

Jehanne · « **Reply #2 on:** March 16, 2011, 02:01:22 PM »

Their baptisms are invalid, therefore, they are not Christians.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #3 on:** March 16, 2011, 02:48:51 PM »

The Holy Mother of God is NOT part of the Trinity, therefore they are not Christians, nor is anyone who does not believe in the Divinity of Jesus Christ, as in Mormans, Jehova Witness for example. They can call themselves whatever they choose, I am speaking in the eyes of God, they are not Christians.

Jehanne · « **Reply #4 on:** March 16, 2011, 03:41:53 PM »

Just to clarify, to be a heretic, one must have been validly baptized. This was the first or second thing (after a person's name) that the various Inquisitions asked an accused heretic during the Middle Ages, and they wanted a parish record and/or testimony to prove it. It is one of those many myths that the Inquisitions persecuted Jєωs, pagans, etc.; not true, only the baptized.

spouse of Jesus · « **Reply #5 on:** April 20, 2011, 12:19:18 PM »

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Am I right?

I don't personally know anything of this group. However, any person who holds the beliefs that you describe is, as you say, at best a heretic. At worse, he is a pagan or apostate (if he had ever been a Christian).

It is odd, however, that many people today--especially bishops of the Conciliar Church--will almost never declare that a person is a heretic, that is, unless he's a traditional Catholic. In general, most people today consider anyone who says he's a Catholic to be a Catholic.

It is how prots think. they say that Jesus hates the righteous and loves the sinner. They cite parable of prodigal son,, the pharisee who entered the temple and "he came to heal the sick not the healthy etc."and many others to prove that the more evil you are the more God loves you.
I remember once hearing a prot sermon via satelite. I remember I was planning to commit a big sin just to make God love me more.
Trads are after goodness and virtues so their 'Christ' doesn't love trads.