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Offline Angelus

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This is a quote from Wikipedia about her predictions:

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Marie-Julie predicted numerous chastisements for sin that would fall first on France then spread to the rest of the world. These include: earthquakes, unprecedented destruction through storms, failed harvests, unknown plagues that would spread rapidly plus the cures for them, a "Blood Rain" that would fall for seven weeks, cινιℓ ωαr in France that apparently would be started by conspirators in the government, the persecution of the Catholic Church with the total closure of all churches and religious houses, persecution and slaughter of Christians, the destruction of Paris, a Two Day period of Darkness that would come circa a month before the Three Days of Darkness. The coming of the Great Monarch would also be announced by signs in the sky. She also had visions of the Angelic Pontiff who would reign at the same time of the Great Monarch, and that both these great leaders were destined to restore the Catholic Church.

Not a single one of these predictions has ever been fulfilled. At what point do you stop considering someone to be a true prophet? :facepalm:
In MJJ's prophecy, "France" is a figure of the false Church, the entity ruled over by "Pope Francis." The name "Francis" was the nickname of Giovanni di Pietro di Bernardone, the original St. Francis of Assisi. He was named that as a reference to the country of France, where his father did business and died.

It is this false Church of Francis that "the chastisement for sin" will fall on first. 

"Paris" is a veiled reference to Rome, where the false Church of "Pope Francis" is headquartered. It is not the true Rome (of the authentic Pontiffs), but a false Rome ruled by Francis. Similarly, Our Lady of LaSallete states that "Rome will lose the faith and will become the seat of the Antichrist." 

All of this is in the process of fulfillment. One just needs to learn to read the prophecies correctly.



Offline Yeti

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Could they be prophecies about events that are still farther in the future?
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I would define a true prophet as someone who makes predictions about the future that are fulfilled, and a false prophet as someone who makes predictions that are not fulfilled. By that definition, she is a false prophet. And, since most people cannot see the future, the presumption is that someone who makes predictions about the future is a false prophet until proven otherwise. Thus, Ms. Jahenny is still a false prophet by that criterion.

As far as your theory that her predictions might come true later, if we accepted the idea that we can call someone a true prophet while their predictions are unfulfilled, then everyone who predicts the future must be considered a true prophet, which is absurd.

Moreover, if you look at true prophecies, they are always fulfilled within a reasonable amount of time. This is obvious, since there is no point warning people of chastisements that will not take place for another millennium. Prophecies are given to warn people to repent, and chastisements are given to people who ignore those warnings.

This is why true prophecies are usually fulfilled within the lifetime of the people who received and ignored the warnings. Our Lady at Fatima warned people of a terrible war that would punish the world if people didn't repent. That was fulfilled about 20 years later. At La Salette, she likewise warned of a terrible famine if people wouldn't stop working on Sundays. That was fulfilled about ten or twenty years later, I forget exactly. Our Lord warned the Jews that Jerusalem would be destroyed. It was destroyed 40 years after He predicted that. Jonas the prophet told the Ninevites under inspiration that Nineveh would be destroyed within 40 days if they didn't repent, but fortunately their repentance averted that chastisement.

That's how real prophecy works. But this woman has been dead since 1941; nearly everyone who heard her warnings is long dead. At a certain point it doesn't make sense to think her predictions were true. Otherwise, what, should we look through medieval manuscripts for some monk who prophesied the Indonesian tsunami in 2004, or the plandemic/jab, or the 9/11 attacks, or any other major disaster of recent years? Of course not. If anyone had predicted those things a thousand years ago, their prediction would long since have been lost to time and would have been idle at the time it was made, and even more idle now. So that's why it doesn't make sense to think that someone a century ago would be making true prophecies about things that would take place so long after their lifetimes that they and their prophecies would be long forgotten by the time the prophecies were fulfilled.

You kind of have to look at these sorts of things with a bit of common sense.


The Sacrifice of the Mass will end/be suspended for 3 and half years. Chapter 12 of Daniel.

Everyone shall call me Blessed(Our Lady). Prophecy for the future.

I came to fulfill the scriptures, Christ.  The scriptures were how old?

Many prophecies for our latter times are coming, and being fulfilled.  No, consecration to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, Errors will spread. My Immaculate Heart WILL reign, future .

Offline Angelus

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I would define a true prophet as someone who makes predictions about the future that are fulfilled, and a false prophet as someone who makes predictions that are not fulfilled. By that definition, she is a false prophet. And, since most people cannot see the future, the presumption is that someone who makes predictions about the future is a false prophet until proven otherwise. Thus, Ms. Jahenny is still a false prophet by that criterion.

As far as your theory that her predictions might come true later, if we accepted the idea that we can call someone a true prophet while their predictions are unfulfilled, then everyone who predicts the future must be considered a true prophet, which is absurd.

Moreover, if you look at true prophecies, they are always fulfilled within a reasonable amount of time. This is obvious, since there is no point warning people of chastisements that will not take place for another millennium. Prophecies are given to warn people to repent, and chastisements are given to people who ignore those warnings.

This is why true prophecies are usually fulfilled within the lifetime of the people who received and ignored the warnings. Our Lady at Fatima warned people of a terrible war that would punish the world if people didn't repent. That was fulfilled about 20 years later. At La Salette, she likewise warned of a terrible famine if people wouldn't stop working on Sundays. That was fulfilled about ten or twenty years later, I forget exactly. Our Lord warned the Jews that Jerusalem would be destroyed. It was destroyed 40 years after He predicted that. Jonas the prophet told the Ninevites under inspiration that Nineveh would be destroyed within 40 days if they didn't repent, but fortunately their repentance averted that chastisement.

That's how real prophecy works. But this woman has been dead since 1941; nearly everyone who heard her warnings is long dead. At a certain point it doesn't make sense to think her predictions were true. Otherwise, what, should we look through medieval manuscripts for some monk who prophesied the Indonesian tsunami in 2004, or the plandemic/jab, or the 9/11 attacks, or any other major disaster of recent years? Of course not. If anyone had predicted those things a thousand years ago, their prediction would long since have been lost to time and would have been idle at the time it was made, and even more idle now. So that's why it doesn't make sense to think that someone a century ago would be making true prophecies about things that would take place so long after their lifetimes that they and their prophecies would be long forgotten by the time the prophecies were fulfilled.

You kind of have to look at these sorts of things with a bit of common sense.

MJJ's prophecies about "the Second Celebration" have been fulfilled. I provided the quotes above. Please read this part very carefully again:

"When the fatal hour arrives when they will put to the test the Faith of My eternal priesthood, it is these sheets that they will give to celebrate in this last period. The first period, it is that of My priesthood which exists since (or after) Me. The second, is the period of persecution when the enemies of the Faith and of Holy Religion have formulated - and they are strongly enforced - these sheets as the book of the second celebration, these infamous spirits (or, infamous minds) are those who crucified Me and who are waiting for the reign of the new Messiah to make them happy."

MJJ is saying that the "sheets" of the Second Celebration will occur after the "first period" which MJJ is in herself. It will be the next period, "the period of persecution." And the Second Celebration will be crafted for those who are "waiting for the reign of the new Messiah to make them happy," that is, happy in this life by telling them it is okay to sin. This is talking about the Novus Ordo Mass. 

Offline Ladislaus

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This is a quote from Wikipedia about her predictions:



Not a single one of these predictions has ever been fulfilled. At what point do you stop considering someone to be a true prophet? :facepalm:

Are you smoking something?  She didn’t give dates, and these correlate with similar things predicted by others … for the FUTURE.  There’s lots of prophecy about a Great Monarch and Holy Pope who will restore the Church after a great apostasy.  Last time I checked, said apostasy is not over yet.