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« Reply #30 on: November 14, 2010, 08:22:51 PM »
Quote from: Thorn
Their goals are to get us out of the UN & to have less government & more individual responsibility!!  That's bad?!



Those goals aren't bad, the problem is the JBS isn't Catholic.  

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« Reply #31 on: November 14, 2010, 08:25:44 PM »
Quote from: Thorn
Their goals are to get us out of the UN & to have less government & more individual responsibility!!  That's bad?!


It's not exactly anything original. It sounds like George Putnam from 15 yrs ago-- just hot air.


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« Reply #32 on: November 14, 2010, 08:31:50 PM »
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re secretive networks in churches - I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

They write & talk about Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ all the time!!

Just as not all Catholics belong to the NO, not all Jews are connected to the conspiracy and there are non-Jews in the conspiracy as well.



I have their reprint of "Proofs of a Conspiracy" since it was missing and never replaced at our university library.  Interesting they don't discuss John Quincy Adams Book on Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ. (which isn't in our university library, but an old copy published in Cincinnati at the time th book came out is at the diocesan seminary!)  This cut and paste, with some text cut, corresponds to what is in their "Americanist Classics" Proofs of a Conspiracy:

 
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  "Robison, a former Mason himself, found that 'this impunity [from authority by maintaining the Masonic rule of secrecy] had gradually encouraged men of licentious principles to become more bold, and to teach doctrines subversive of all our notions of morality.' Let us be quick to say that Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ in England, America and elsewhere has historically, and today is, quite another kind and its members characterized by high standards of morality and spirituality...
    "The true purpose of the [Illuminati] Order was to rule the world. To achieve this it was necessary for the Order to destroy all religions, overthrow all governments, and abolish private property...This is exactly what the Communists have been doing since 1848! Please note that Robison makes it clear that the Illuminati Order was quite distinct and separate from Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ...[the] conspiracy [was] conceived not by Masons as Masons, but by evil men using Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as a vehicle for their own purposes...In the realm of ideology, certainly the line from the Illuminati Order to the Communist Manifesto is straight and unbroken...
   "Let it be stressed that the present publication of Robison's work is not intended to open old wounds or create new animosity or distrust toward Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ, whose adherents today certainly number among our staunchest patriots and anti-Communists... The conspirators have long since discarded Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ as their vehicle. If clever conspirators could use - of all groups - so fine a group as the Masons, we must open our minds to consider what infinite possibilities are available to them in our own present day society. Their main habitat these days seems to be the great subsidized universities, tax-free foundations, mass media communications, governmental bureaus such as the State Department, and a myriad of private organizations such as the Council on Foreign Relations..."


http://watch.pair.com/jbs-cnp.html


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« Reply #33 on: November 14, 2010, 09:16:00 PM »
Telesphorus - I'll see if I have 'Proofs of a Conspiracy' & find that quote.  Meanwhile let me go out on a limb here & say that I think what he meant was that the present day Masons are probably as ignorant of the conspiracy [as the present day NO Catholics are on the true teachings of the church] & therefore are not part of the conspiracy.  They just go merrily on their way helping crippled children & other philanthropic things and are in it for the brotherhood.

Yes, the JBS isn't Catholic but neither are the Toastmasters.  This means I can't join?!  Tell me a Catholic organization that does what the JBS tries to do in informing voters & I may join.  

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« Reply #34 on: November 14, 2010, 09:18:14 PM »
Quote from: Thorn
Yes, the JBS isn't Catholic but neither are the Toastmasters.  This means I can't join?!  Tell me a Catholic organization that does what the JBS tries to do in informing voters & I may join.  


I don't know.  I just have reservations about them.