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Alexandria · « **Reply #90 on:** November 17, 2010, 04:24:52 PM »

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Catholics cannot go to non-catholics when our own house is in shambles. The first priority is to heave the anti-pope and restore True Infallibility.

R Welch was a freemason. What else does Thorn need to know?

:applause:

Sadly Roscoe these people are brought up on the breast-milk of Americanism. Which as you know is a heresy. So, until they remove the blinders they can never see.

Amen.

Thorn · « **Reply #91 on:** November 17, 2010, 04:33:35 PM »

Dawn, please, the JBS isn't a religious org. I have no idea what books they have NOW, as I've tried hard to explain. If they had books as you suggested, then they'd have to have books on Mormonism, anti-Catholic books by Protestants, etc.

Alexandria, I wrote in the vein of 'if the shoe fits'. If it doesn't fit you, more power to you & good for you! I'm really glad! (clap, clap)

Dawn · « **Reply #92 on:** November 17, 2010, 04:42:30 PM »

Where did I ever say it was a religious organization? It is not. And, that is the problem.

roscoe · « **Reply #93 on:** November 17, 2010, 04:44:53 PM »

Some good info could be had from JBS at one time but I always wondered why they never told the truth about KAL 007-- the plane was blown up.

Thorn · « **Reply #94 on:** November 18, 2010, 01:12:06 PM »

So, Dawn, you will only get your information from Catholic sources? You therefore don't read secular newspapers or magazines? I can see that in a cloister or monastery, but not for a layman. I also can see not going to Bible study groups with non-Catholics or even going to the Y for anything and giving them money. I know you don't like my opinions, but I don't think Christ wants his soldiers in the world wrapped so tight. Remember I joined the JBS because it was an informational org. and religion was not discussed during meetings otherwise you'd get off on tangents. That's not to say that you could not talk to non-Catholics afterwards and try to shed some truth about Catholicism on them.

MauricePinay · « **Reply #95 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:11:26 PM »

The JBS was funded and co-founded by the same Koch family empire that controls the kosher Tea Party.

Alexandria · « **Reply #96 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:14:22 PM »

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The JBS was funded and co-founded by the same Koch family empire that controls the kosher Tea Party.

What is their point in being involved in every traditional chapel? Control? Keeping tabs on them?

Dawn · « **Reply #97 on:** November 18, 2010, 02:59:48 PM »

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So, Dawn, you will only get your information from Catholic sources? You therefore don't read secular newspapers or magazines? I can see that in a cloister or monastery, but not for a layman. I also can see not going to Bible study groups with non-Catholics or even going to the Y for anything and giving them money. I know you don't like my opinions, but I don't think Christ wants his soldiers in the world wrapped so tight. Remember I joined the JBS because it was an informational org. and religion was not discussed during meetings otherwise you'd get off on tangents. That's not to say that you could not talk to non-Catholics afterwards and try to shed some truth about Catholicism on them.

Actually no, I do not read any newspapers save the Four Marks. And, I read no magazines either. I listen to the headlines at the top of the hour on my radio, and listen while I cook dinner to Catholic Radio, but that only to see what errors I will have to fight when my family members still trapped in the Novus Ordo come calling.
There is no newspaper or television news program that is not owned by the enemies of Christ so why would I bother with that?

MauricePinay · « **Reply #98 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:01:55 PM »

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The JBS was funded and co-founded by the same Koch family empire that controls the kosher Tea Party.

What is their point in being involved in every traditional chapel? Control? Keeping tabs on them?

JBS influences traditional chapels for the purpose of neutralizing the Gospel.

Consider the following passages from the Gospel:

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And the Pharisees going out, immediately made a consultation with the Herodians against [Jesus], how they might destroy him. (Mark 3;6)

Then the Pharisees going, consulted among themselves how to insnare [Jesus] in his speech. (Matthew 22;15)

The chief priests therefore, and the Pharisees, gathered a council, and said: What do we, for this man doth many miracles? If we let him alone so, all will believe in him; and the Romans will come, and take away our place and nation ... From that day therefore they devised to put him to death. (John 11;47-53)

Then went one of the twelve, who was called Judas Iscariot, to the chief priests, And said to them: What will you give me, and I will deliver him unto you? But they appointed him thirty pieces of silver. And from thenceforth he sought opportunity to betray him. (Matthew 26;14-16)

And when morning was come, all the chief priests and ancients of the people took counsel against Jesus, that they might put him to death. And they brought him bound, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor ... he knew that for envy they had delivered him. (Matthew 27;1-2, 18)

[T]he chief priests and ancients persuaded the people, that they should ask for Barabbas, and take Jesus away. And the governor answering, said to them: Whether will you of the two to be released unto you? But they said, Barabbas. Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. (Matthew 27;20-22)

This is a real conspiracy. It's THE conspiracy. God was incarnated and walked among us so that we might know the truth and have salvation but men plotted against and killed Him. These plotters and executioners of our Lord have ideological heirs who live among us today who plot against the Gospel as much as their forefathers. But the JBS has nothing to say about this conspiracy. In fact, it calls these conspirators "friends" and "allies."

[Then] Fr. Kelley wrote a book in 1974 for the JBS publishing house titled, Conspiracy Against God and Man which barely mentions Jesus and the Gospel except to make Him a witness against "the great collectivist conspiracy." It doesn't mention the ѕуηαgσgυє's conspiracy against Jesus. It doesn't mention the Pharisees or their heirs at all. It doesn't mention the financial backers of "the great collectivist conspiracy." It makes Karl Marx to be a "Jew"-hater. It's a work of misdirection.

This is the objective of the JBS, to tie-up, misdirect and neutralize opposition to the root conspiracy and even further, transform people who should be the opposition into servants of "our best friend and ally 'Israel.'"

Alexandria · « **Reply #99 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:07:45 PM »

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Quote from: Alexandria
Quote from: MauricePinay
The JBS was funded and co-founded by the same Koch family empire that controls the kosher Tea Party.

What is their point in being involved in every traditional chapel? Control? Keeping tabs on them?

JBS influences traditional chapels for the purpose of neutralizing the Gospel.

Consider the following passages from the Gospel:
Quote

And the Pharisees going out, immediately made a consultation with the Herodians against [Jesus], how they might destroy him. (Mark 3;6)

Then the Pharisees going, consulted among themselves how to insnare [Jesus] in his speech. (Matthew 22;15)

The chief priests therefore, and the Pharisees, gathered a council, and said: What do we, for this man doth many miracles? If we let him alone so, all will believe in him; and the Romans will come, and take away our place and nation ... From that day therefore they devised to put him to death. (John 11;47-53)

Then went one of the twelve, who was called Judas Iscariot, to the chief priests, And said to them: What will you give me, and I will deliver him unto you? But they appointed him thirty pieces of silver. And from thenceforth he sought opportunity to betray him. (Matthew 26;14-16)

And when morning was come, all the chief priests and ancients of the people took counsel against Jesus, that they might put him to death. And they brought him bound, and delivered him to Pontius Pilate the governor ... he knew that for envy they had delivered him. (Matthew 27;1-2, 18)

[T]he chief priests and ancients persuaded the people, that they should ask for Barabbas, and take Jesus away. And the governor answering, said to them: Whether will you of the two to be released unto you? But they said, Barabbas. Pilate saith to them: What shall I do then with Jesus that is called Christ? They say all: Let him be crucified. (Matthew 27;20-22)

This is a real conspiracy. It's THE conspiracy. God was incarnated and walked among us so that we might know the truth and have salvation but men plotted against and killed Him. These plotters and executioners of our Lord have ideological heirs who live among us today who plot against the Gospel as much as their forefathers. But the JBS has nothing to say about this conspiracy. In fact, it calls these conspirators "friends" and "allies."

[Then] Fr. Kelley wrote a book in 1974 for the JBS publishing house titled, Conspiracy Against God and Man which barely mentions Jesus and the Gospel except to make Him a witness against "the great collectivist conspiracy." It doesn't mention the ѕуηαgσgυє's conspiracy against Jesus. It doesn't mention the Pharisees or their heirs at all. It doesn't mention the financial backers of "the great collectivist conspiracy." It makes Karl Marx to be a "Jew"-hater. It's a work of misdirection.

This is the objective of the JBS, to tie-up, misdirect and neutralize opposition to the root conspiracy and even further, transform people who should be the opposition into servants of "our best friend and ally 'Israel.'"

It is all over though -- no matter which group you go to - in or out of the church. I have to say that it is worse in the novus ordo church. However, one would expect more from traditional chapels.

What is a Catholic to do? If you would rather not answer me here, please PM me.

One more thing and I don't know how to word this without getting my head taken off by some board members. Does this "be nice, be kind, be loving" campaign that I hear so much about ad nauseum tie in with what you are saying? I always thought of that as a a neutralizer. Not that we shouldn't be all of those things, but there is a time to fight and not be so nice, kind and loving.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #100 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:36:02 PM »

JBS is worse in the N.O.? Or the the "being nice"?

Alexandria · « **Reply #101 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:40:11 PM »

You know, Elizabeth, you were one of the people here that I had in mind when I wrote that. Leave it to you to misunderstand me.

MauricePinay · « **Reply #102 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:44:05 PM »

I can only say to pray for the graces to bear the difficulties that a life lived according to the Gospel entails, today as much as ever. The world is hostile to the Gospel and traditionalist groups to varying degrees are no exception.

Trust and fear God more than these men.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #103 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:50:04 PM »

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You know, Elizabeth, you were one of the people here that I had in mind when I wrote that. Leave it to you to misunderstand me.

I have no idea what you are talking about, Alexandria. I am very sorry if I have offended you; it was certainly not my intention.

Alexandria · « **Reply #104 on:** November 18, 2010, 05:52:01 PM »

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You know, Elizabeth, you were one of the people here that I had in mind when I wrote that. Leave it to you to misunderstand me.

I have no idea what you are talking about, Alexandria. I am very sorry if I have offended you; it was certainly not my intention.

You didn't offend me.

Let's just leave it at that.