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The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
« on: December 20, 2013, 04:42:03 AM »
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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief

    Sacraments signify what they effect, and effect what they signify. The chief thing which must be signified, according to Pope Leo XIII in Apostolicae Curae, is the "res tantum" - the "reality", the "grace proper" of the sacrament. In the Sacrament of the Holy Eucharist this "reality" or "grace proper" is the unity of the mystical body. (The Real Presence is "reality and sign" or "res et sacramentum", not the "res tantum").

    This signification is found in the words "for you and for many unto the remission of sins" - the "you and many" refer to the members of the Mystical Body, and the "remission of sins" is the cause of their unity. The Novus Ordo says "for all" and consequently fails to signify the Mystical Body or its unity. Hence the Novus Ordo fails to signify what it is meant to effect, and is by definition invalid. That is, it is no sacrament at all.

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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
    « Reply #1 on: December 20, 2013, 07:54:13 AM »
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    • The new translation fixed that and it is now "for many" in the NO.

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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
    « Reply #2 on: December 20, 2013, 07:57:11 AM »
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    The new translation fixed that and it is now "for many" in the NO.



    You mean the true Church authorized something that was broken?
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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
    « Reply #3 on: December 20, 2013, 09:33:53 AM »
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    The new translation fixed that and it is now "for many" in the NO.



    You mean the true Church authorized something that was broken?


    And it took over 40 years to make this correction!
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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
    « Reply #4 on: December 20, 2013, 10:34:43 AM »
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    The new translation fixed that and it is now "for many" in the NO.



    You mean the true Church authorized something that was broken?


    And it took over 40 years to make this correction!


    And they waited 40 years on purpose.
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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
    « Reply #5 on: December 20, 2013, 10:46:18 AM »
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    The new translation fixed that and it is now "for many" in the NO.



    You mean the true Church authorized something that was broken?


    And it took over 40 years to make this correction!


    And they waited 40 years on purpose.


    You mean they waited for all the "priests" to be invalid before they made it partially right again?
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    The Invalidity of the Novus Ordo, in Brief
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