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Offline Raoul76

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The inherent gnosticism of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity
« on: May 23, 2011, 01:31:53 AM »
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  • I often wonder whether or not Benedict is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  Hopefully people don't pretend to be shocked, because I'm sure they've also thought about it.

    The homoerotic acrobats were one thing, but he also, in his books, often refers to a very arcane French-American writer named Julien Green who was an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.  Of course, I know Julien Green, and I'm not ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, from my past as a bookworm, but this arcane gαy author is a truly bizarre person for a Cardinal to repeatedly cite in books about "faith."    

    There are other indications about Ratzinger.  He appears to be one of those gnostic aesthetes of the kind that fawn over Brideshead Revisited.  Something I've observed about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, from my limited experience, is that they often believe their filthy proclivities give them some kind of secret, special knowledge.  There is almost something inherently GNOSTIC about ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity itself, as you might expect, since such tastes are literally unfathomable to heterosɛҳuąƖ men.  Perhaps it is so traumatic to the mind to have participated in these foul acts that gαys, like schizophrenics, attempt to escape into an imaginary personality.  At any rate, like many other groups who don't want the truth, they do tend to construct an elaborate but ungodly ethos to justify their actions.  

    I remember George Michael was once photographed having an assignation with an old man.  He said to the photographer, "Are you gαy?  No?  Then you don't know anything about it!"  In other words, you have to be one of the initiated, one of the elite, to understand why they act the way they do.  Being gαy doesn't mean they're sick, it means they are exquisite, sensitive, unique flowers.  Fallen angels, at times, but aspiring towards the empyrean climes...  All you have to do to understand what I'm talking about is take a look at someone like Oscar Wilde, who carried himself as if he was the pinnacle of civilization while all those who would impede his sodomite proclivities were barbaric fiends.  His life is treated by gαys as if he were Jesus, as if he suffered for humanity.  

    This is why gαys often act bashful and sensitive and artistic.  It's like some kind of mask for their gross activity, a way to make it seem poetic instead of just deranged and diseased.  They essentially construct an entire philosophy, an ethics and an aesthetics around what is in reality a freakish and base desire.  This dichotomy surely accounts for their bad tempers, their ultra-sensitivity, as you will be familiar with if you have ever known a gαy.  They almost all have hair-trigger tempers and are violently unstable.  I knew one gαy guy, an actor, when I was in junior high, and I remember him storming angrily out of the room when he showed me one of his performances and I didn't say anything about how great he was within one or two minutes of watching it.  Like Jєωs, they put on an air of meekness and sweetness, but underneath there is often a self-loathing that is infinite, a self-loathing that could easily turn into hate for others.

    Something that is VERY noticeable about the writings of Ratzinger is that this man is a full-blown gnostic, in a cult of one, speaking only to himself, as if he has some kind of private wisdom.  He will allow you to hear it, to be privy to it, but he will not give you the key to unlock it.  He doesn't even act as if he wants to be understood.  Like all gnostics, he appears to want to be seen as having an impenetrably deep mind, and to this effect he cloaks himself in nonsensical ambiguities.  In reality he sounds like an incompetent schoolboy who just read his first ten pages of Heidegger and decides to try to blend it with his rudimentary Christian faith.  But his obscure and "aesthetic" mind, in tandem with certain other events of his pontificate, sure does lead one to wonder.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #1 on: May 25, 2011, 06:01:29 PM »
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  • A very interesting post, Raoul.  It would be very interesting to see how Pope Benedict would reply if a reporter simply asked him, "Your Holiness, are you ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?"
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #2 on: May 25, 2011, 06:23:39 PM »
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  • Quote from: Sigismund
    A very interesting post, Raoul.  It would be very interesting to see how Pope Benedict would reply if a reporter simply asked him, "Your Holiness, are you ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?"


    Too bad Bazz isn't here to defend a non-answer from B16 as being the most appropriate response.
    It would be comparatively easy for us to be holy if only we could always see the character of our neighbours either in soft shade or with the kindly deceits of moonlight upon them. Of course, we are not to grow blind to evil

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    « Reply #3 on: May 25, 2011, 07:56:10 PM »
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    I often wonder whether or not Benedict is a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ.   ....sure does lead one to wonder.


    You should have kept this blasted "wonder" to yourself. Your post is bad. Infernally bad. Your post is almost as nauseating as sodomy itself. They both stink to high heaven. They both come straight from hell.

    This is going to require some serious reparation. Underneath all the rot, you know this. Step away from this board - and for an extended time. But are you capable of doing this?

    Come to your senses, man. Don't you smell the sulfur all around you? Or are you now totally acclimated to it? "Water? WHAT water?" says the fish. Is it too late for you?

    Find out. Go into a deep, extended study of the 8th Commandment. Go to your catechism.

    And listen:

    Backbiting 1

    Backbiting 2

    And read:

    Sins of the Tongue (free online)

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    The Wisdom of Silence thread in the Library here.

    And pray.

    "But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment. For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned."

    -Matthew 12:36-37

    "And the tongue is a fire, a world of iniquity. The tongue is placed among our members, which defileth the whole body, and inflameth the wheel of our nativity, being set on fire by hell. For every nature of beasts, and of birds, and of serpents, and of the rest, is tamed, and hath been tamed, by the nature of man: But the tongue no man can tame, an unquiet evil, full of deadly poison. By it we bless God and the Father: and by it we curse men, who are made after the likeness of God. Out of the same mouth proceedeth blessing and cursing. My brethren, these things ought not so to be."

    -James 3:6-10

    (At this moment your pride is welling up. Overflowing. To vindicate yourself, you want to blast away at me, shut me down, humiliate me, dismiss me, reduce me to ashes. Go ahead. I won't make this a pissing contest. But after you sober up, step back and think about what I've said. You know it's true. And it's true regardless of whether Joseph Ratzinger is the pope or not.)



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    O shame, where is thy blush?**

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    « Reply #4 on: May 25, 2011, 08:06:23 PM »
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  • Um, you might want to switch to decaf.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #5 on: May 25, 2011, 08:08:24 PM »
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  • Quote from: SJB
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    A very interesting post, Raoul.  It would be very interesting to see how Pope Benedict would reply if a reporter simply asked him, "Your Holiness, are you ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ?"


    Too bad Bazz isn't here to defend a non-answer from B16 as being the most appropriate response.


    I don't remember who Bazz is.  I suppose "None of your business, sir," might be an acceptable answer.   A simple "yes" or "no" would be more re-assuring.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir

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    « Reply #6 on: May 25, 2011, 08:19:55 PM »
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  • I suppose it is possible. I don't think Benedict is gαy, but you raise an interesting point Raoul. And Jitpring, what Raoul is doing isn't sinful. If he had come out and said "Benedict is definitely a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ that needs to come out of the closet!" then that would be sinful because he can't prove it. But he said he only wondered. Wondering if a person might be gαy isn't a sin, unless the person clearly isn't and you're just making stuff up. Just curious, Jitpring, why do you keep asking people to leave the forum for a while?
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #7 on: May 25, 2011, 08:23:27 PM »
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    I don't remember who Bazz is.


    Here's his profile. He was banned a while back for a negative comment about the Scapular.

    http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=profile&w=1375
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #8 on: May 25, 2011, 09:08:21 PM »
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    I suppose it is possible. I don't think Benedict is gαy, but you raise an interesting point Raoul. And Jitpring, what Raoul is doing isn't sinful. If he had come out and said "Benedict is definitely a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ that needs to come out of the closet!" then that would be sinful because he can't prove it. But he said he only wondered. Wondering if a person might be gαy isn't a sin, unless the person clearly isn't and you're just making stuff up. Just curious, Jitpring, why do you keep asking people to leave the forum for a while?


    He didn't only wonder; he voiced this wonder publicly and without sufficient justification. This makes all the difference.

    I haven't asked anyone to leave; I've suggested it. I've done so because of the sinful nastiness and chaos here and resulting lack of peace. I now see that it's I who should leave.
    Age, thou art shamed.*
    O shame, where is thy blush?**

    -Shakespeare, Julius Caesar,* Hamlet**

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    « Reply #9 on: May 25, 2011, 09:17:56 PM »
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  • jitpring please stay!!

    i think you and raoul need to go sky surfing and patch things up!!




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    « Reply #10 on: May 26, 2011, 12:28:52 AM »
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  • Without sufficient justification, Jitpring?  What, the covering-up of pedophiles, the acrobats from the gαy circus, his constant companion "Gorgeous George Ganswein"who fusses over this sad heretic like an old woman -- according to one article -- and the constant quotations from an arcane ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ author aren't enough to at least raise suspicion?  How about the fact that he is clearly an "aesthete"?  Sorry, I'm not worried God will have my head for this one.  

    Actually I am very careful with my tongue.  I don't even comment on Paul VI possibly being gαy, though there is apparently some very solid proof of that.  I don't take it lightly even when it comes to suggesting someone is gαy, but in the case of this Ratzinger, people aren't saying enough.  Talking about his potential gαyness for me is part of the attempt to understand why he would fail so spectacularly to respond in any meaningful way to a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ pedophile crisis in the "Church."  I don't think we can act like these things are happening in a vacuum.  

    In order to show people what has gone wrong, they need to know that Vatican II is a gαy cult, that gαys have a stranglehold on the seminaries, and that this is a conspiracy of people who have given themselves over to abomination, and not just about men who are driven to sinful acts by celibacy.  Whether or not Ratzinger partakes in this gαy cult, he most certainly protects it.  

    What I have observed in my study of gαys is, like I said, that they have codes and various reference points by which they understand each other -- it is known that gαys will wear, say, a flag in one pocket, or something like that, to signal to other gαys what they are.  But they also have a network of cultural references by which they know each other.   That is how they are able to work together, as it were, and block out anyone who is not "one of them" from getting into Vatican II, in so many cases.

    I was very careful to draw no conclusions about Ratzinger, except that he is, and this can't be denied, the head of the largest gαy cult in the world.  I also wanted to point to an extremely pronounced cryptic, gnostic and self-absorbed tendency in the writings of Ratzinger.

    Julien Green is a man whose books are decidedly gnostic ( he is an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ, by the way, in case you want to have another hissy fit ); and Ratzinger, out of NOWHERE, has dug up this Julien Green and constantly quotes him, as if he has any relevance at all to the Catholic faith.  

    If you want mollycoddling of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs, go to Michael Voris.  I personally have no sympathy for what these people are doing in the name of the Church, and I sincerely question anyone who does.  These people are not special little snowflakes, they are duped by the devil into hideous acts, acts that lead to despair, which in turn leads to a seared conscience... And much more sin.  Why does Ratzinger do nothing to stop the scourge, after so much time in office?  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 26, 2011, 12:38:04 AM »
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  • Jtspring- please don't leave- you have no reason to.

    Raoul seems to be more and more absurd in many of his posts. Having an opinion or wondering isn't what's wrong. You are right- he voiced his wonder without justification publicly- then he back tracks to save face. How foolish and prideful.

    Edit: you 'do' have reason to, but have a drink and sleep on it and I'm hoping you'll be back.

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    « Reply #12 on: May 26, 2011, 12:41:53 AM »
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  • Let's put it this way, Jit -- you don't see any cause for concern that the head of the largest gαy cult in the world often quotes an open ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ gnostic author as if this man were some kind of oracle, and then invites homoerotic circus performers to the Vatican?  I'm the one you have a problem with?  

    Let's put it this way.  I can see that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs would have a big problem with my post, because it shows that I clearly see through them with X-ray vision and know exactly how they operate and what they're up to.  I know about their little cultural aesthetic codes, I know about how they flatter themselves that they are tragic, beautiful creatures.
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    « Reply #13 on: May 26, 2011, 12:45:42 AM »
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  • That was a stupid and illogical conclusion and you know it Raoul. You just morphed everything JT said into whether he had a problem with BVI or not and you? for someone who trys to sound so smart, you really can seem overly simple. Dude- get off.

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    « Reply #14 on: May 26, 2011, 12:46:04 AM »
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  • S2srea said:
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    Having an opinion or wondering isn't what's wrong. You are right- he voiced his wonder without justification publicly


    I just gave you the justification.  I know many Catholics who crack jokes during that acrobat video like "Benedict is enjoying himself today!" etc.  I am far from the only one who thinks the man might be gαy.  

    Do you think simply ignoring my evidence and defaming me instead is being a good Catholic?  You are the one who are making yourself suspicious by acting as if what I'm saying is out of the blue.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.