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The Great Monarch
« Reply #5 on: June 12, 2011, 12:34:37 AM »
No...I don't beleive in any monarch BS...the solution to monarchy has often been rule 303.

The Great Monarch
« Reply #6 on: June 12, 2011, 08:11:38 AM »
Quote from: scipio_a
No...I don't beleive in any monarch BS...the solution to monarchy has often been rule 303.


Well you are entitled to you're opinion on this matter, but consider this; monarchy whether it be in it's absolute or constitutional forms is the form of government which is most natural for mankind. The reason for this is that it most closely mimics the natural order of the family (a nation being a large family), with either a mother (queen) or a father (king) and always children (the people). In a monarchy all the acts of government have restraint and (very) rarely flow into excess. Let's face it if the Kaiser was on the throne would there have been a WWII? If the Tsar was alive do you think Stalin could have acted as he did? Who was responsible for the Rwandan Genocide, Queen Elizabeth II? Don't think I'm suggesting that all republics commit crimes of that magnitude, but when a government has no constitutional restraint and is acting "in the name of the people" the results can be quite disastrous.

Aside from all of these secular arguments, the most important thing is that one day we will all live in a Kingdom... that of Heaven! One day we will be reigned over with Christ as our King and Mary as our Queen!


The Great Monarch
« Reply #7 on: June 12, 2011, 08:36:08 AM »
A Catholic doesn't have the right to say that monarchy was "solved" by "rule 303" (regicide).  What an absolutely loathesome thing to say.

The Great Monarch
« Reply #8 on: June 12, 2011, 08:57:08 AM »
Quote from: Canuk the Lionheart
Let's face it if the Kaiser was on the throne would there have been a WWII? If the Tsar was alive do you think Stalin could have acted as he did? Who was responsible for the Rwandan Genocide, Queen Elizabeth II?


To be honest, I don´t think that would have made such a big difference.

Then, was it the Commonwealth of England that put that nation into schism and heresy? Who gave Luther the support in Germany? Didn´t the Holy Roman Emperor dissolve numerous monasteries and passed schismatic laws in the course of Josephinism? Didn´t Louis XVI. take an oath on the French constitution, already condemned by the Pope? Was it the President or King of Sardinia-Piedmont who stole the Patrimony of St. Peter? Did the Weimar Republic or the German Empire fight Catholicism in the Kulturkampf? And Napoleon, the First and the Third, was a Monarch, too! Juan Carlos, the Most Catholic King of Spain according to title, pressed Liberalism into the till then pretty sheltered Spanish society.

I could go one forever with this. Still, I favor a monarchical form of state, for the reason you mentioned above and which can be found in the writings of St. Thomas Aquinas.
But much more important is that the nation, may it be republican or monarchical, follows the right principles of governing, being obedient in all matters to the Catholic faith. Everything else is pretty much a matter of taste.
The President of the United States for example is much more a Monarch than Elizebath II. Truly, the term constitutional monarchy does not really apply to most of the so called monarchies we know, they are merely representative monarchies.

The Great Monarch
« Reply #9 on: June 12, 2011, 01:31:40 PM »
Quote from: Telesphorus
A Catholic doesn't have the right to say that monarchy was "solved" by "rule 303" (regicide).  What an absolutely loathesome thing to say.



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