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Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #15 on: June 20, 2022, 06:43:27 PM »
3) It is no joke.  He’s a dead-serious separatist, and that’s going to land you in hot water with the commies.

Yup.  Unfortunately, I'm not sure that his Traditional faith is the primary reason for his arrest, but rather his political views.

Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #16 on: June 20, 2022, 09:30:39 PM »
To quote someone from when I was on Gab: "The Great Monarch is the original Q"

In my opinion, the time has long passed for that prophecy.


Offline Yeti

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Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #17 on: June 20, 2022, 10:19:18 PM »
To quote someone from when I was on Gab: "The Great Monarch is the original Q"

In my opinion, the time has long passed for that prophecy.
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Thumbs up, pal! This is a fascinating insight. Constant predictions about some great hero who will put all the bad guys away and restore everything to what it should be ... who is always just around the corner.

I never thought of the Great Monarch this way, but fake prophecies have been around since the beginning of the Church. In the middle ages there was something called the Mirabilis Liber that predicted all kinds of things that never happened. It supposedly included a number of statements from canonized saints, and yet I believe it was on the Index of Forbidden Books (or the medieval equivalent).

Here's a juicy excerpt from this absurd book:


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There shall be earthquakes in divers places.
 The cities and provinces of the Islanders shall be swallowed up by floods.
 To the plague which shall devastate some places shall be joined the fury of enemies, and nothing shall be able to comfort them.
 Then shall come a king called B., under whose reign there shall be many wars.
 He shall reign for two years, and after him shall come a prince A., who shall remain a long time on the throne.
 He shall march against Rome and shall seize it.
 The Lord shall not deliver it into the hands of his enemies during his lifetime.
 He shall be good and great, and shall render justice to the poor.
 He shall be from the race of the Lombards.
 After him there shall be another prince, named B, from whom twelve other B. shall spring.
 Himself a Lombard, he shall reign a hundred years.
 Then shall appear, after him, a Salic [i.e.Frankish] prince, named L., a frightful prince, under whom shall begin a series of sufferings whose like has never been since the beginning of the world: battles, tribulations, bƖσσdshɛd, earthquakes, cities in captivity.
 The Lord in his wrath shall send a man whose yoke nobody shall be able to shake off, other than the Lord himself.
 The Romans shall be beaten, and the Roman city shall be destroyed.
 The earth shall be covered in ruins: never shall monarch have done such a thing.
 This city [i.e.Rome] shall be called Babylon; this kingdom shall be of iron, and Rome shall be prey to persecution and the sword.
 Men shall be greedy, despots, hard on paupers, oppressors, unjust, wicked.
 Resistance shall be impossible at the time, but the Persians, Macedonians and Turks, hearing of this tyrant, shall form an alliance, shall come to Rome, and shall seize the Salic prince, whom they shall cause to undergo a cruel death, and the burning of Rome shall be avenged.
 Then shall emerge in Gaul a king of the Greeks, Francs and Romans, of lofty stature and handsome appearance; his body and limbs shall have the most beautiful proportions; he shall reign a hundred and twelve years; he shall carry written on his forehead: "This man, verily, is destined to avenge Christendom, snatch it away from the yoke of Ishmael [i.e.the Arabs], conquer it from the Saracens; none of the Saracens shall thereafter be able to reign.
 " Seven times over, he shall cause them the greatest ill, shall ruin their whole empire, shall strike them; after that, peace shall reign for Christians up until the time of the Antichrist.


It is obvious that most of these things have been disproved by subsequent events.

I think people have such a great desire to know the future, and likewise to be saved by some great hero from the evils of the world, that a prediction of the future that tells them of such a coming hero is almost irresistible.

It is entirely plausible that the Great Monarch is one of those things too.


Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #18 on: June 20, 2022, 10:40:48 PM »
I suppose we can abstract from this concrete situation and discuss false prophecies and the like, but the OP (despite its title) is about a traditional Catholic man in the world's most oppressive country being imprisoned for wanting a Catholic state. 

Don't be fαɢs. That's courageous stuff. Let's keep Jacob Pius in our prayers, and hope we can have just a little of that mettle. 

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The Great Monarch Arrives (in China)!
« Reply #19 on: June 20, 2022, 10:56:01 PM »
Sorry, guys, but there's WAY too much Catholic prophecy from some highly-credible mystics backing the arrival of a Great Monarch to gratuitously dismiss.