Author Topic: The Great Catholic Monarch yet again (Read 4273 times)

InfiniteFaith · « **on:** October 17, 2012, 12:09:13 AM »

More evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #1 on:** October 17, 2012, 12:22:02 AM »

I suggest reading the attachment first

guitarplucker · « **Reply #2 on:** October 17, 2012, 01:48:07 AM »

He thinks Medjugorje is legit.

http://www.stjeromecroatian.org/eng/frsudac.html

Nadir · « **Reply #3 on:** October 17, 2012, 02:15:34 AM »

Yet ANOTHER N.O. pope! Hope he gets a hair cut first. :geezer:

The cross on the forehead is NOT the stigmata.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #4 on:** October 17, 2012, 02:05:59 PM »

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More evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

You've yet to respond to what I posted the last time you started this nonsense with the so-called prophecy of St. Malachy.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #5 on:** October 17, 2012, 04:50:17 PM »

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More evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

You've yet to respond to what I posted the last time you started this nonsense with the so-called prophecy of St. Malachy.

Please refresh me on that.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #6 on:** October 17, 2012, 04:50:52 PM »

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Yet ANOTHER N.O. pope! Hope he gets a hair cut first. :geezer:

The cross on the forehead is NOT the stigmata.

Based off of only one premise I assume...

The Novus Ordo is wrong and you are right

JohnGrey · « **Reply #7 on:** October 17, 2012, 04:55:39 PM »

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More evidence...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prophecy_of_the_Popes

You've yet to respond to what I posted the last time you started this nonsense with the so-called prophecy of St. Malachy.

Please refresh me on that.

The last post in this thread.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #8 on:** October 17, 2012, 06:34:24 PM »

Not Medge again! Sheeesh............

How about that time Medge appeared to the delinquents when they were
supposed to be in school (again) and told them to "touch her hands and
let me take away your sins." So they touched her, one by one, and they
saw her hands turn black with their sins, the blackness moving up her
arms and then covering her whole image from head to toe, then she
faded away.

Immaculate? Not. . . . Spotless? Not. . . . Mother of God? Not.

Get over it.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2012, 12:42:05 AM »

Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that some Catholics (including clergy) will be destroyed during the 3 days of darkness.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:38:02 AM »

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Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that some Catholics (including clergy) will be destroyed during the 3 days of darkness.

Is there any private revelation that you don't believe? If it's not the Great Catholic Monarch or the so-called prophecy of the popes or Medjugore, then it's the three days of darkness. You have through your intimations consistently elevated these fallible human experiences to the level of dogma, insofar as they materially inform the expression of your faith and your notions of what and to whom you are bound to shown unity or support. I urge you, and I say this truly out of charity and not because I disagree with your belief, to seek help. From an independent priest or a psychiatrist or something.

You made a post in the old thread that I referenced yesterday that really concerns me, in which you said:

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Not for me. For everyone else. Plus he will create the era of peace. the wicked will be destroyed. all the people who make my life a living hell will probably be destroyed (consumed by demons i might add) unless they repent...

emphasis mine

This is a very telling and very troubling statement. It seems as though you have some very real personal problems with persecution, whether real or imagined I don't know, and you seem to be twisting an already unsubstantiated prophecy into your own personal rapture, where you won't have to suffer any more. My friend, I'm going to spare you any suspense you might have: while you breathe you will suffer. You must learn to joy in your sufferings because they are permitted by God for your betterment.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:14:11 AM »

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Oh yeah. I forgot to mention that some Catholics (including clergy) will be destroyed during the 3 days of darkness.

Is there any private revelation that you don't believe? If it's not the Great Catholic Monarch or the so-called prophecy of the popes or Medjugore, then it's the three days of darkness. You have through your intimations consistently elevated these fallible human experiences to the level of dogma, insofar as they materially inform the expression of your faith and your notions of what and to whom you are bound to shown unity or support. I urge you, and I say this truly out of charity and not because I disagree with your belief, to seek help. From an independent priest or a psychiatrist or something.

You made a post in the old thread that I referenced yesterday that really concerns me, in which you said:

Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Not for me. For everyone else. Plus he will create the era of peace. the wicked will be destroyed. all the people who make my life a living hell will probably be destroyed (consumed by demons i might add) unless they repent...

emphasis mine

This is a very telling and very troubling statement. It seems as though you have some very real personal problems with persecution, whether real or imagined I don't know, and you seem to be twisting an already unsubstantiated prophecy into your own personal rapture, where you won't have to suffer any more. My friend, I'm going to spare you any suspense you might have: while you breathe you will suffer. You must learn to joy in your sufferings because they are permitted by God for your betterment.

Yes and I discussed this on another thread about how Jєωs have been spying on me lately and making a lot of condescending remarks about what I have been doing on my computer at home.

I don't think you are in any position to be telling people to seek psychiatric help. This is a religious belief that you or nobody else is required to believe in for that matter. If you want to start making my religious belief into a psychiatric problem then I advise you to stop. You may open the flood gates to other people trying to prescribe psychiatric care to people of any religion. You see my point?

I find that offensive that you would even go that route. This belief is based on reason. Not just some delusional paranoid psychiatric issue. If you choose to accept that reason then that fine. If not, then thats fine too. But don't run around trying to convince people that they are crazy. Especially when you don't know the details to why I even said that in the first place.

JohnGrey · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2012, 11:54:07 AM »

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I don't think you are in any position to be telling people to seek psychiatric help. This is a religious belief that you or nobody else is required to believe in for that matter. If you want to start making my religious belief into a psychiatric problem then I advise you to stop. You may open the flood gates to other people trying to prescribe psychiatric care to people of any religion. You see my point?

In point of fact, I don't see your point. This cobbling together of private revelation, conspiracy theory, good old-fashioned paranoia does a disservice to those who profess the consistent, logical, infallible Catholic faith, because non-believers don't remember us, they remember you.

And my suggestion for seeking help from a psychiatrist was not simply because you believe what you believe, but because the basis for your belief seems to involve the cessation of some nebulous persecution. Persecutory delusion is a very real phenomenon. My suggestion to seek help from a priest is because you are blatantly permitting private revelation, and your own interpretation of it, to decide very real and vital matters of faith.

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I find that offensive that you would even go that route. This belief is based on reason. Not just some delusional paranoid psychiatric issue. If you choose to accept that reason then that fine. If not, then thats fine too. But don't run around trying to convince people that they are crazy. Especially when you don't know the details to why I even said that in the first place.

You're certainly free to take offense. I'm personally offended that you espouse these beliefs as coming from reason. There's nothing reasonable about taking fallible, private revelation having no guarantee of being truly prophetic (Great Catholic Monarch, Angelic Pope, Three Days of Darkness, Prophecy of the Popes) and ascribing it to pet personalities or in support of cults which have no sound basis in the authority or theology of the Church (Medjugore, Novus Ordo/conciliar anti-church, Mr. Sudac and his supposed stigmata). You will find no support for this here because such assertions are unsupportable by any logical means. If you choose to believe these things as matters of faith, that is your choice, and you do so in danger of perverting the very surety of the faith as transmitted by the Church which carries the unimpeachable infallibility that your theories lack. At least have the common courtesy to admit that this is simply what you choose to believe and not what reason has revealed to you.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:17:37 PM »

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I don't think you are in any position to be telling people to seek psychiatric help. This is a religious belief that you or nobody else is required to believe in for that matter. If you want to start making my religious belief into a psychiatric problem then I advise you to stop. You may open the flood gates to other people trying to prescribe psychiatric care to people of any religion. You see my point?

In point of fact, I don't see your point. This cobbling together of private revelation, conspiracy theory, good old-fashioned paranoia does a disservice to those who profess the consistent, logical, infallible Catholic faith, because non-believers don't remember us, they remember you.

And my suggestion for seeking help from a psychiatrist was not simply because you believe what you believe, but because the basis for your belief seems to involve the cessation of some nebulous persecution. Persecutory delusion is a very real phenomenon. My suggestion to seek help from a priest is because you are blatantly permitting private revelation, and your own interpretation of it, to decide very real and vital matters of faith.

Quote from: InfiniteFaith
I find that offensive that you would even go that route. This belief is based on reason. Not just some delusional paranoid psychiatric issue. If you choose to accept that reason then that fine. If not, then thats fine too. But don't run around trying to convince people that they are crazy. Especially when you don't know the details to why I even said that in the first place.

You're certainly free to take offense. I'm personally offended that you espouse these beliefs as coming from reason. There's nothing reasonable about taking fallible, private revelation having no guarantee of being truly prophetic (Great Catholic Monarch, Angelic Pope, Three Days of Darkness, Prophecy of the Popes) and ascribing it to pet personalities or in support of cults which have no sound basis in the authority or theology of the Church (Medjugore, Novus Ordo/conciliar anti-church, Mr. Sudac and his supposed stigmata). You will find no support for this here because such assertions are unsupportable by any logical means. If you choose to believe these things as matters of faith, that is your choice, and you do so in danger of perverting the very surety of the faith as transmitted by the Church which carries the unimpeachable infallibility that your theories lack. At least have the common courtesy to admit that this is simply what you choose to believe and not what reason has revealed to you.

How do you know its paranoia? Others on this site would agree with me. You don't seem to be very logical in your presumptions. Nor do you show very much reason for them. How does Being excited about the possible arrival of the Great Catholic Monarch=paranoid schizophrenic? Perhaps you need psychiatric treatment for coming to that conclusion based off of so little information.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:32:34 PM »

JohnPoop,

Didn't the wicked try to say that Jesus Christ was crazy?