Author Topic: The Gifts of ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs (Read 5769 times)

poche · « **Reply #15 on:** October 15, 2014, 11:54:09 PM »

12. Seminaries that drive out good men (need I elaborate on this?)

What we need to do is to pray to the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit can help us to walk through the most dangerous minefield unharmed.

poche · « **Reply #16 on:** October 15, 2014, 11:57:00 PM »

13. The Church driving Her children to despair - something Popes and Bishops will pay for one day.

What we need to do is to pray. The light from the Most Blessed Sacrament is so bright that it can cause the sun to cast a very dark shadow. This is the light which will lead us through the darkest valleys and the deepest caves.

poche · « **Reply #17 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:02:38 AM »

14. The credibility of the Church shattered almost beyond repair.

When Napoleon invaded Italy he marched into Rome and arrested the pope. He arrogantly said, "I am sending you to prison and I will destroy your Church!" The Pope replied, "If we haven't been able to do it in 1800 years what makes you think you can do it now?"
More than 200 years has past. Napoleon is dead and the Catholic Church continues. Christ promised to St Peter that the gates of Hell would not prevail.

poche · « **Reply #18 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:08:04 AM »

15. Ruined lives.

This doesn't have to remain that way. A good confession, prayer, penance. When you fall down get up again and try again. Christ fell three times on the way to Calvary. Yet he got up each time.

poche · « **Reply #19 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:09:16 AM »

16. Murder

Another mortal sin which needs to be mentioned in confession.

poche · « **Reply #20 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:12:42 AM »

17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

BTNYC · « **Reply #21 on:** October 16, 2014, 12:42:35 AM »

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17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

St. Pius V sentenced Sodomites to death because of the rampant destruction to public morality they'd wrought.

Do you think that they're wreaking less or more havoc on public morals today than they did in the 16th Century? If St.Pius V's "medicine of severity" was needed then, how much more so is it needed now?

The Sodomite lobby has thrived on false compassion for the past 4 decades at least. The last thing they need, in this the hour of their ascendancy, is codified mildness and molly coddling from the Church.

Mercy and charity without Justice is nothing.

ggreg · « **Reply #22 on:** October 16, 2014, 01:11:35 AM »

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17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

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How have bishops hated the sin?

Writing down that it is "intrinsically disordered", but then holding gαy masses where sodomies are welcome with their "partners" and their ""unique gifts and qualities" are celebrated is not hating the sin.

They don't have special masses for heterosɛҳuąƖ adulterers do they? Or thieves ? Or Gangbangers?

If they hate the sin of sodomy Poche then you need to ask yourself two questions.

1. Why are they specifically pandering and targeting those with this perversion?

2. Why are so many clerics either involved in Sodomy or not speaking out, when their clerical colleagues are sodomizing people?

Did you read The Rite of Sodomy or a Stephen Brady's RCF website?

poche · « **Reply #23 on:** October 16, 2014, 01:20:56 AM »

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Quote from: poche
17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin
.

How have bishops hated the sin?

Writing down that it is "intrinsically disordered", but then holding gαy masses where sodomies are welcome with their "partners" and their ""unique gifts and qualities" are celebrated is not hating the sin.

They don't have special masses for heterosɛҳuąƖ adulterers do they? Or thieves ? Or Gangbangers?

If they hate the sin of sodomy Poche then you need to ask yourself two questions.

1. Why are they specifically pandering and targeting those with this perversion?

2. Why are so many clerics either involved in Sodomy or not speaking out, when their clerical colleagues are sodomizing people?

Did you read The Rite of Sodomy or a Stephen Brady's RCF website?

I understand that the CDF has started to come down against the "gαy" masses. I regularly hear teh clerics in my community condemning the sins relating to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity along side with the sins of adultery and fornication.

stbrighidswell · « **Reply #24 on:** October 16, 2014, 02:08:41 AM »

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17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

I personally am so sick of poche and their endless defence of the indefensible .

ggreg · « **Reply #25 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:26:16 AM »

In his defense he does it with such crass stupidity and calmness that I find it easy to ignore. To me he is like a moron in an asylum shouting out that the "King is coming to tea" or something equally inane. Just becomes background noise.

If software programmers wrote a bot to imitate a neo-catholic defender of the status quo, I suspect version 1.2 would behave almost exactly the same as Poche.

In light of that he does not really annoy me at all.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #26 on:** October 16, 2014, 09:55:18 AM »

In the whole docuмent, there is no mentioned of "SIN" and ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖilty
is a disorder.
So, this the logical conclusion of the post vatican 2 church, that there is no
such thing as "sin" .
Gifts from ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs might will be Gifts from Hell. Because this is where
these gifts will take us.
The only "sin" is not going along with it.

ClarkSmith · « **Reply #27 on:** October 16, 2014, 10:51:44 AM »

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17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

Why did you create 17 separate posts? You could have fit every point in 1 post. Now it is a pain to scroll through all the pages.

BTNYC · « **Reply #28 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:33:26 PM »

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Quote from: poche
17. The anger of God as He sees His Church embrace one of the sins that cry to Heaven for vengeance.

I don't see the Church embrracing sin. I see her trying to embrace the sinner. Remember, we must love the sinner, but hate the sin

Why did you create 17 separate posts? You could have fit every point in 1 post. Now it is a pain to scroll through all the pages.

Well, Clark, one doesn't rack up 15,000+ posts between CI and Fisheaters - as Poche has - by practicing that kind of common courtesy.

One acheives that feat by copy and pasting fluff pieces from Yahoo News, creating numerous textless posts that consist only of a single emoticon, blithely replying on serious threads with either NO / Conciliar talking points or full-on intellectually dishonest circuмlocutions or pious-sounding rhetoric that does not address the issue or contribute anything of substance, and, yes, spreading a single post's worth of material across as many individual posts as possible.

15,000 + posts. Where on earth does he find the time? Maybe there's something to those theories about Poche being a Novus Ordo presider being paid to "evangelize" to us Traditional Catholic heathen.

ProtectorofOrder · « **Reply #29 on:** October 16, 2014, 03:53:33 PM »

Stage being set for "pedophile rights" too, no kidding. A psychologist suggested that pedophilia is a sɛҳuąƖ orientation like ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity and that there is a different between it and molestation: http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php/Stage-being-set-for-pedophile-rights

What's next? "Bestiality rights" and "inanimate object love interest"? World is going crazy.