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Offline Incredulous

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The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
« on: August 06, 2013, 12:34:22 AM »
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  • From TIA

    Echoes from Brazil

    Doors Open Wide for Abortion
     in the World’s Largest Catholic Country


    Manoel Ricardo da Rocha Fiuza


    August 1, 2013, became a day of mourning in Brazil’s history. On this date, reneging on the pledge she made during the presidential campaign, President Dilma Rousseff sanctioned the law opening the gate for the “killing of the innocents.”

    Not only are her hands red with blood, but also the hands of those who favored the veiled and hasty way this law was approved by the two houses of the Congress. Particularly to blame are Minister of Justice Alexandre Padilha and PT (Workers Party) House representative Iara Bernardi. But also culpable are the members of both Houses who voted for the bill, alleging that the word “abortion” had not been used in the text.


    A brief history

    This resolution was first presented by Iara Bernardi in 1999 and remained in limbo. It finally came to the floor in 2013. (1) The vote was one of the strangest ever to occur in the Brazilian Congress. Perhaps its deceitful title on ‘women who suffer sɛҳuąƖ violence’ and the speed of its passage through all the necessary processes made it difficult to discern the content of the proposal.



    Rousseff did not honor her word
    and approved abortion


     The person who took the initiative to bring this law to the floor was Rousseff’s Minister of Justice. Thus, Rousseff reneged on the promise she made in the 2010 election that she would never approve abortion in Brazil.
    On February 20, 2013, Minister Padilha asked the House President Eduardo Alves to urgently proceed with approving a law that provided women who are victims of sɛҳuąƖ violence with priority assistance at hospitals. The pretext was to commemorate the International Day of the Woman that was coming up on March 8. Consequently, that old resolution was recalled and presented by the leader of the Workers’ Party in the House on March 5, 2013, calling for an immediate vote.

     The other party leaders gave their approval, and the measure was quickly set before the House Assembly. Discussion on the measure was verbal and rapid. None of the representatives had even been given time to read the law; nonetheless, it was approved unanimously on that same day, March 5. Why did none of the pro-life representatives rise to make any objections?

     Three days later, the resolution was sent to the Senate for its vote. On April 10, the law was approved by its Commission of Human Rights. Finally, on July 4, the law was unanimously approved by the Senate. Then, it was sent to be sanctioned by the President
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    The content of the law  

     This law addresses the assistance to be given to women who suffer sɛҳuąƖ violence. It purposely avoids mention of the word abortion, although its primary purpose was specifically to allow abortion.

    Article 1 rules that all hospitals - no exception is mentioned - “must offer immediate and complete assistance to anyone victimized by sɛҳuąƖ violence, and send the person to the services of social assistance.”

     “Immediate assistance” means that the service must be given upon request, without the delay of a single day. “Complete assistance” means that the pregnant woman should be either offered an abortion or sent to the already existing abortion agencies for an abortion. So, the “services of social assistance” to which the woman should be sent are abortion services.


    Article 2 broadly defines “sɛҳuąƖ violence” as “any form of non-consensual sex.”



    Ignoring the protests of the people, politicians rushed to pass a law allowing abortion to practically any pregnant woman


    Given that the law does not specify that the victim needs to present proof she had non-consensual sex, and given that consent is a unverifiable subjective decision, it suffices for a woman to affirm that she did not consent to the act that caused her pregnancy for her to be entitled to have an abortion at any hospital.

     This means that every hospital, including Catholic ones, are obliged to allow a pregnant woman to have a legal abortion as long as she alleges that her pregnancy was caused by a non-consensual act.

     What the Congress unanimously approved and the President sanctioned was similar to a resolution presented by the Lula government in 2008, which was defeated by a wide margin of votes. Now, five years later, both houses of Congress have unanimously approved a very similar law.

     How can such a contradiction be explained? Was it due to the shrewdness of the government in disguising the law so politicians did not know what they were approving? Was it a tyrannical act of the government? Was it possible due to the corruption of the politicians? I lack the elements to answer these perplexing questions.


    The shameful position of the religious authorities

    Petitions with thousands of signatures were delivered to the Archdiocese of Rio de Janeiro requesting the Bishops to ask Pope Francis to say a word against the law of abortion during his stay in Rio, and to exhort President Dilma to veto it. I don’t know if the Bishops transmitted the request. What I do know is that Pope Francis did not say a word against the abortion law in his multiple public appearances. If he had done so, I believe Rousseff would not have sanctioned the law.



    Amidst embraces and kisses, the Pope could have said a word to Rousseff against abortion


     The Brazilian Conference of Bishops, in its turn, did very little. Millions were expecting it to pressure the President to veto the project. Instead of asking for a total veto, it only requested a partial veto. It received nothing.

     The Conference of Bishops in Brazil has been a voice that lulls to sleep the good reactions of pro-life Catholics and the hand that extinguishes the flame of their enthusiasm.

     The indignation of millions of Catholics did not find an echo in the voice of the religious authorities. One word from the Pontiff in his long, spectacular stay in Brazil would have sufficed to save the lives of millions of voiceless innocents.

     The Pope, who has spoken so much about protecting the poor, in this case forgot to say a word to save millions of poor innocents from a criminal death. This omission occurred at the very moment when the situation was ideal for him to act - he was the center of attention of the country and the world. This omission took place during his visit to the country with largest number of Catholics in the world…



    1.Prior to this law, Brazil had already approved abortions in two cases: 1.When the mother’s life is in serious danger; 2. In cases of rape. This last law was approved in 2005 under Lula’s term as President. For such cases, there are 64 places that provide abortions. With the approval of the recent law, the doors of abortion have opened wide for any case of a woman who claims she became pregnant having “non-consensual” sex, relying on her simple word. From now on, any hospital is obliged to either perform an abortion or send the woman requesting it to a place that provides it.



    Posted August 5, 2013
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
    « Reply #1 on: August 06, 2013, 01:17:27 AM »
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  • Guess you have to be fully born to be poor.

    To be fair, Bergoglio did say he wanted to get rid of the poor.  He didn't specify how. :furtive:
    Legem credendi, lex statuit supplicandi

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    The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
    « Reply #2 on: August 06, 2013, 03:51:26 PM »
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  • There is something seriously wrong with Bergoglio....

    Why is he kissing the old hag and not that really pretty girl holding the flowers?

    In all seriousness though, when was the photo taken of Bergoglio hand in hand with the Brazilian president?  Was it at the beginning of World Youth Day?  

    The reason I'm asking is because I'm curious if the Pope is actually looking into her eyes and smiling at her so convivially knowing that she is getting ready to sign into law the right to abortion in Brazil.  

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    The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
    « Reply #3 on: August 07, 2013, 03:36:20 PM »
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  • .

    Thanks again to TIA, who follows the Portuguese news scene
    daily.  It helps to be fluent in the language, as well.  

    Atila Sinke Guimarães is a gentleman and a scholar.  


    ........ and thanks to Incredulous for the thread!!!!   :smile:
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    The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
    « Reply #4 on: August 07, 2013, 04:48:10 PM »
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  • Neil,

    Consider, the current Pope could represent an opportunity for another comedy reporter.

    Some gentile could report Pope Bergy's weekly activities, using the same shtick as the Jєωιѕн Saturday Night Live did with "Father Guido".





    Only, the pope's reporter could position himself as the anti-thesis of Guido.




    He could report as a rabbi... using all the comical Yiddish terms and mannerisms... interpreting the Pope's comments and actions to our concerned "elder brothers".


    I get so many inspirations after one cup of coffee  :wink:
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi


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    The Fruits of Bergys visit to Brazil
    « Reply #5 on: August 28, 2013, 12:38:38 AM »
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  • TIA is an offshoot of the heretical Tradition, Family and Property. I would suggest reading some post in Ignis Ardens dealing with that topic. I certainly would never trust them unless I can verify all of their sources. Their opinion should not be considered since they are infiltrators.

    "This letter was published in the Campos daily, La Folha de Manhà in 1991; the original text, however, is dated 1984, two years after Bishop de Castro Mayer's break with TFP. It appeared in Le Sel de la Terre, [no. 28, Spring 1999], in an article entitled, "Docuмents sur la T.F.P".

    Dear XXXXX,
    I owe a response to your grieving letter of September 24, which, as the postmark indicates, you sent me on September 25.

    In this case, I can only offer the sole advice: pray, pray much, above all the Rosary or at least the five decades of the Rosary, asking the Virgin Mother, Mediatrix of all graces, to enlighten your son and make him see that TFP is an heretical sect because, in fact, although they do not say or write it, TFP lives and behaves in accord with a principle which fundamentally undermines the truth of Christianity, that is, of the Catholic Church.

    In fact, it is de fide that Jesus Christ founded His Church------destined to maintain on earth the true worship of God and to lead souls toward eternal salvation---as an unequal society, composed of two classes: one which governs, teaches and sanctifies, composed of members of the clergy, and the other---the faithful---who receive the teaching, are governed and sanctified. This is a de fide dogma.

    St. Pius X wrote that the Church is, in its very nature, an unequal society, meaning that it comprises two orders of persons: shepherds and flocks, those who belong to the various ranks of the Hierarachy and the faithful multitude. These two orders are so completely distinct that the Hierarchy alone has the right and authority to guide and govern the members to the Church's ends, while the duty of the faithful is that of allowing themselves to be governed and to obediently follow the way given by the governing class (The Encyclical, "Vehementer", February 11, 1906) [7].

    And the entire history of the Church, as can be seen in the New Testament, attests to this truth as a fundamental dogma of the Church's constitution. It was to the Apostles only that Jesus said: “Go and teach all nations”. Too, the Acts of the Apostles show us the life of the Church in the times following Jesus Christ. Because of this, it is an heretical subversion to habitually follow a lay person, ---therefore, not a member of the Hierarchy--- as the spokesman of orthodoxy. Thus, they do not look to what the Church says, what the Bishops say, rather what this or that one says.... Nor does it end there: this attitude------even if not openly avowed---actually positions the "leader" as the arbiter of orthodoxy, and is accompanied by a subtle but real mistrust of the hierarchy and of the clergy in general.

    There is a visceral anticlericalism in TFP: everything that comes from the clergy is prejudicially received. Basically, it holds that all priests are ignorant, not very zealous or interesting, and have other such qualities. Well, then, keeping in mind the divine Constitution of the Church which was instituted by Jesus Christ, TFP's habitual anti-clericalism, latent, makes it an heretical sect, and therefore, as I have said, is animated by a principle contrary to the dogma established by Jesus Christ in the constitution of His Church.

    Nevertheless, TFP had a healthy beginning. There was a certain evolution of the apostolate carried out by the bi-weekly newspaper of the Marian Congregation of St. Cecelia, titled, O Legionario. As a serious and well intentioned movement, it sought to strengthen the intellectual and religious formation of the members of that Congregation and, consequently, of the bi-weekly’s readers. It was influential throughout Brazil. That was the era of [its] obedience to Monsignors Duarte and Leme. I accompanied and approved its apostolate, also when it began to stray into an anticlerical spirit, which began by its consolidating its position and then reversing it by putting the clergy in tow behind a charismatic layman, with his monopoly on orthodoxy. Perhaps I gave it support beyond a licit point. I retracted it only when it became clear to me that my warnings were not being taken into consideration. They had become useless.

    It is just to observe that the straying of certain members of the hierarchy, ....explains the “TFPistas'" scandal, but it doesn't justify the positions they came to take. Even less so, those of their leader, Plinio.

    At this time, as I said at the beginning of this letter, the remedy is prayer. First, because without prayer nothing is obtained: “Ask,“ Our Lord says, “and you shall receive.” It is necessary to pray, because charismatic fervor produces a certain fanaticism: individuals become incapable of seeing objective reality, of perceiving even fundamental errors, because of this inversion of following a lay person instead of the legitimate Shepherds of the Holy Church. So much moreso when, as I have observed, members of the Hierarchy unfortunately and frequently utter words and take positions which any Catholic can see are dissonant from doctrine and from the guidance of the Church of the ages.....

    I ask Our Lord that he grant you, and your entire family, a holy and happy Christmas and many years filled with God's grace.
    I ask that you pray for me, Servant in Christ-Jesus,
    Antonio de Castro Mayer, Bishop Emeritus of Campos
    "

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