Author Topic: The Fr. RamollaAnti-SGG Revolution "Implodes" (Read 16530 times)

SJB · « **Reply #30 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:26:53 AM »

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Are you ashamed of Joseph Charles McKenzie and his views ... you do know he is the personal friend of Bp. Dolan and Fr. Cekada?

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SJB obsessively thought but didn't say:

"Fr. Cekada. :devil2: Fr. Cekada :devil2: Fr. Cekada :devil2:"

"Must ... fight ... off ... rays ... forcing ... me .... to ... mention ... building ... fund"

:tinfoil:

Why would I need to do that when you keep bringing it up, Ceknut?

SJB · « **Reply #31 on:** April 30, 2012, 10:31:49 AM »

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I have no knowledge of what goes on in New Mexico. If the Apostolic Faith is not preached there, etc., I have no knowledge of it.

http://www.latinmassnewmexico.com/

SJB · « **Reply #32 on:** April 30, 2012, 10:57:37 AM »

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I have no knowledge of what goes on in New Mexico. If the Apostolic Faith is not preached there, etc., I have no knowledge of it.

http://www.latinmassnewmexico.com/

http://www.latinmassnewmexico.com/newsletter.html

SJB · « **Reply #33 on:** April 30, 2012, 12:39:00 PM »

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I have no knowledge of what goes on in New Mexico. If the Apostolic Faith is not preached there, etc., I have no knowledge of it.

http://www.latinmassnewmexico.com/

http://www.latinmassnewmexico.com/newsletter.html

Here Rawhide, I'll help you out:

Quote from: latinmassnewmexico newsletter

His Excellency Bishop Dolan and Rev. Fr. Palma have ordered the creation of a Website to promote interest in the Catholic Church's New Mexico mission.

The New Age occupiers of the Archdiocese of Santa Fe have allowed Bugnini's "Latin Mass" of 1962 to be offered by a priest associated with the schismatic SSPX.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #34 on:** April 30, 2012, 03:49:11 PM »

Cupertino:

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I don't think you've entirely misunderstood. We are allowed to pray anywhere (except in hell). To visit a Novus Ordo church for the purpose of looking around, and then finding yourself praying in secret, is quite different from visiting the same specifically in order to pray there.

Thats a very good point. If you are in Europe, you go to the churches to look around and then to pray there. I have had to dodge novus ordo services in many of those shrines. After you pray and see the art work and the relics there, you move on, maybe to never return again.
I wouldnt think it would be right to visit a local novus ordo church often, to pray
there.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #35 on:** April 30, 2012, 03:55:59 PM »

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When we needed to flee scary Scylia with all its monster heads and tentacles, and our child needed First Holy Communion, here is where we took refuge:

http://rackphoto.com/pp/prayerplaces/old-st-marys/

Say what you will, this is a holy place with a holy Catholic priest, Fr. Jaurez. Some places are just very holy, they defy the norm. Their Holy Hours at night. I would advise taking refuge in this special place while you figure things out. You only need to receive Communion once a year to remain Catholic. You could sit and quietly recite your Rosary. There is a parking lot next door. Fr. Juarez has made the immediate area safe; nobody is going to mess with any of his people. (he stood down the rioters with his powerful priestly authority and love for souls) We will always hold that place, the priest and the good people there dear.

The traditionalist movement began in Cincy/Northern KY in the 1970s when Catholics ABANDONED old St. Mary's, and most of them ended up in short order at St. Gertrude the Great. You might want to think about doing that yourself, Elizabeth.

We have moved back home to DC since then. However, I pray for all gifts of the Holy Ghost to flourish there.

Canute · « **Reply #36 on:** April 30, 2012, 03:58:30 PM »

SJB, maybe you could clarify this for us:

Like St. Albert the Great, your chapel, St. Anthony of Padua in Columbus, was also served by Fr. Ramolla.

Will he no longer be serving that chapel as well?

SJB · « **Reply #37 on:** April 30, 2012, 03:58:59 PM »

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Cupertino:

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I don't think you've entirely misunderstood. We are allowed to pray anywhere (except in hell). To visit a Novus Ordo church for the purpose of looking around, and then finding yourself praying in secret, is quite different from visiting the same specifically in order to pray there.

Thats a very good point. If you are in Europe, you go to the churches to look around and then to pray there. I have had to dodge novus ordo services in many of those shrines. After you pray and see the art work and the relics there, you move on, maybe to never return again.

I wouldnt think it would be right to visit a local novus ordo church often, to pray there.

First off, Elizabeth suggested this, not me. Secondly, what does "often" mean exactly? If I stop in Carey, Ohio a few times a year, is that too often? I'm just curious as to what you think.

SJB · « **Reply #38 on:** April 30, 2012, 04:03:41 PM »

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SJB, in the past year you have quoted James Larrabee several times, using the same lengthy quote each time, which professes that those who are happy with the Novus Ordo are "not Catholic" and "are not members of the Church".

This has nothing to do with anybody but yourself promoting a belief here. Unless you explicitly criticize that portion of Larrabee's quote, everyone knows you have no problem with people believing just that.

What does someone else's belief about something else have to do with you promoting Larrabee's quote, as in "not members of the Church"?

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Let me put it this way. At present, there are basically two types of "Catholics": those who are happy with the "changes" and those who are not. Of the latter group, some if not most have joined some sort of resistance "movement" at least in their minds. The first group is not Catholic, and I have no concern with them, though I hope and pray for their conversion to the Truth as I do for all non-believers. They are not members of the Church, and they are not interested in what I or "traditionalists" have to say. It would take a far greater than I to convert them.

I believe he is saying those who are happy with the changes are visibly not Catholics by their actions.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #39 on:** April 30, 2012, 04:13:05 PM »

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Cupertino:

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I don't think you've entirely misunderstood. We are allowed to pray anywhere (except in hell). To visit a Novus Ordo church for the purpose of looking around, and then finding yourself praying in secret, is quite different from visiting the same specifically in order to pray there.

Thats a very good point. If you are in Europe, you go to the churches to look around and then to pray there. I have had to dodge novus ordo services in many of those shrines. After you pray and see the art work and the relics there, you move on, maybe to never return again.

I wouldnt think it would be right to visit a local novus ordo church often, to pray there.

First off, Elizabeth suggested this, not me. Secondly, what does "often" mean exactly? If I stop in Carey, Ohio a few times a year, is that too often? I'm just curious as to what you think.

I suggested this in response to Lighthouse's question, which was a choice between two horrible sea monsters out of Homer's Odyssus, so I chose Old St. Mary's , far away from either.

We meant to go to Carey, but goofed and went to a shrine with a German name somewhere filled with relics. Many souls, including traditional Catholics have had profound experiences in Carey.

Emerentiana · « **Reply #40 on:** April 30, 2012, 04:27:43 PM »

SJB said:

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First off, Elizabeth suggested this, not me. Secondly, what does "often" mean exactly? If I stop in Carey, Ohio a few times a year, is that too often? I'm just curious as to what you think.

SJB,
is Carey Ohio a famous shrine? Im not familiar with Ohio at all. I can understand that you poor people in Cincinnati have a very tough situation. Im not sure if any of you there have a mass you want to to go to at present.

I personally would not go into a novus ordo church to pray in my vacinity. Remember, there is no Blessed Sacrament there. Same as going into a protestant church.
Its interesting, in Europe. The old people visit their local churches to pray in front of a Statue of Our Lady (often miraculous), a holy crucifix or a saints relics. They will do this right at the time a novus ordo is going on, and not attend the service. They so desperately cling to the shred of Catholicism they have left.
I'm sure most of the trad priests will tell you not to visit regularly, unless you are visiting a famous shrine to pray in front of the body of a saint.

SJB · « **Reply #41 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:20:55 PM »

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SJB said:

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First off, Elizabeth suggested this, not me. Secondly, what does "often" mean exactly? If I stop in Carey, Ohio a few times a year, is that too often? I'm just curious as to what you think.

SJB,

is Carey Ohio a famous shrine? Im not familiar with Ohio at all. I can understand that you poor people in Cincinnati have a very tough situation. Im not sure if any of you there have a mass you want to to go to at present.

I personally would not go into a novus ordo church to pray in my vacinity. Remember, there is no Blessed Sacrament there. Same as going into a protestant church.

Its interesting, in Europe. The old people visit their local churches to pray in front of a Statue of Our Lady (often miraculous), a holy crucifix or a saints relics. They will do this right at the time a novus ordo is going on, and not attend the service. They so desperately cling to the shred of Catholicism they have left.
I'm sure most of the trad priests will tell you not to visit regularly, unless you are visiting a famous shrine to pray in front of the body of a saint.

Yes, located in Carey, Ohio is the Basilica and National Shrine of Our Lady of Consolation.

http://www.olcshrine.com/shrine-history.html

SJB · « **Reply #42 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:27:34 PM »

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I suggested this in response to Lighthouse's question, which was a choice between two horrible sea monsters out of Homer's Odyssus, so I chose Old St. Mary's , far away from either.

I understand. You realize there are some who will say you must choose the sea monster with the valid Mass and then pretend he's not a sea monster at all.

Also, I understand that a nice traditional looking Novus Ordo church will likely soon appear as a sea monster if you're thinking you'll find the Faith there.

SJB · « **Reply #43 on:** April 30, 2012, 07:31:54 PM »

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We meant to go to Carey, but goofed and went to a shrine with a German name somewhere filled with relics.

That would be The Shrine of the Holy Relics in Maria Stein, OH.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shrine_of_the_Holy_Relics

SJB · « **Reply #44 on:** April 30, 2012, 08:29:18 PM »

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SJB, in the past year you have quoted James Larrabee several times, using the same lengthy quote each time, which professes that those who are happy with the Novus Ordo are "not Catholic" and "are not members of the Church".

This has nothing to do with anybody but yourself promoting a belief here. Unless you explicitly criticize that portion of Larrabee's quote, everyone knows you have no problem with people believing just that.

What does someone else's belief about something else have to do with you promoting Larrabee's quote, as in "not members of the Church"?

Only you have linked them, Rawhide.