…If this custom was juridically accepted from a canonical authority, I'd like to know of it. It's not too much to ask.

Lex orandi, lex credendi.  The Holy Trinity is "three-in-one," not "three-within-three."

Please keep your eye on the ball: "juridically accepted from a canonical authority."

This is a reference to the "choir" being put up front at Mass with a "conductor" of sorts gesticulating flamboyantly in an alleged need to direct the singing.

Guy with his hand up in this picture is the "flapper".


It's a huge distraction.  You'll notice how they're blocking view of the altar, and just imagine the guy flailing away with very animated gestures, and SSPX are not limiting this to clerics either.

Usually choirs are in the back above in choir loft.  The head pastor is to blame to allow this.  Yes, huge distraction. 

Usually choirs are in the back above in choir loft.  The head pastor is to blame to allow this.  Yes, huge distraction.

So, I imagine that it's something that leaked from the seminary.  In a seminary setting, the choir effecitvely consists of all the clerics (those who had received tonsure, could wear the cassock, etc.), i.e. most of the seminarians, and the choir is situated up front near the sanctuary.  In that case, any schola would organize in the front of the church, just because that's where they were anyway.  Choir lofts were a thing for churches where you didn't have lots of clerics up front (i.e. most parish churches) and you had lay choirs.  If there was a visiting cleric, they'd often sit in the sanctuary during Mass / Office.  Nevertheless, even with the seminary scholas, I never saw the need for a "flapper".  IMO they serve no purpose as everyone's looking at their music sheets or Liber Usualis and barely noticing the flapper, just like with most orchestras also.  Conductors train all the musicians beforehand but then during the performance they're unnecessary other than to stand up there to take credit for the performance and so the audience has something to look at.  Also, many ancient churches that had clerical choirs would have some fairly high stairs going up to the altar, so that the choir wouldn't necessarily obstruct your view of the sanctuary too much.

Flappers are also useless because your average parishioner in the pews doesn't read chant. So the flapping (chironomy -- the rhythms and stress of chant) is vanity. 

Also as an aside, if they can read neumes and they're not in the schola during the Triduum?  Your director needs you!

Flappers are also useless because your average parishioner in the pews doesn't read chant. So the flapping (chironomy -- the rhythms and stress of chant) is vanity.

Also as an aside, if they can read neumes and they're not in the schola during the Triduum? Your director needs you!

And the singers in the schola aren't looking at the flapper either.

Can anyone share details of the head flapper's departure from OLOS Academy?

Evidence was found of an inappropriate relationship between him and a female student while he was a teacher. He was in his early twenties; she was 15. The evidence was romantic letters exchanged between the two. He was also providing alcohol to female student-athletes and photographing them in the locker room.

He was in charge of the altar boys for a long time, too. One dad in particular took issue with the flapper's insistence that the dad's son meet privately with the flapper on numerous occassions in order to be allowed to serve. When this dad looked further into why the flapper was coming off as such a narcissist, he uncovered the flappers lurid past with the academy and didn't let up on the priests or the flapper about it until he was removed from that position as well.

Now he's in the center aisle, flapping around, causing old women to trip and fall, and carressing young ladies with his "flappers" as they walk by. It's a scandal and it needs to stop. The pastor and prior know of the issues, but refuse to take action, which most who take issue would like to just see them take their flapping up into the loft where they belong...I wonder why?

Evidence was found of an inappropriate relationship between him and a female student while he was a teacher. He was in his early twenties; she was 15. The evidence was romantic letters exchanged between the two. He was also providing alcohol to female student-athletes and photographing them in the locker room.

He was in charge of the altar boys for a long time, too. One dad in particular took issue with the flapper's insistence that the dad's son meet privately with the flapper on numerous occassions in order to be allowed to serve. When this dad looked further into why the flapper was coming off as such a narcissist, he uncovered the flappers lurid past with the academy and didn't let up on the priests or the flapper about it until he was removed from that position as well.

Now he's in the center aisle, flapping around, causing old women to trip and fall, and carressing young ladies with his "flappers" as they walk by. It's a scandal and it needs to stop. The pastor and prior know of the issues, but refuse to take action, which most who take issue would like to just see them take their flapping up into the loft where they belong...I wonder why?

Ugh.

I have no desire to teach, but fly me to Phoenix and I will direct their schola and conduct the choir on Sundays. And not be a vain twerp. Honestly.

Now he's in the center aisle, flapping around, causing old women to trip and fall, and carressing young ladies with his "flappers" as they walk by. It's a scandal and it needs to stop.

This is completely ridiculous. The schola has never caused any old ladies to "trip and fall", and certainly no young ladies have been "caressed".

The pastor and prior know of the issues, but refuse to take action, which most who take issue would like to just see them take their flapping up into the loft where they belong...I wonder why?

First of all, I doubt many people have called for any action to take place. Most people are completely apathetic about the fate of the schola and their flapping.

I am assuming the reason why our pastor organized the schola and placed them in the center of the church is because none of our parishioners (outside of the choir) sing -- and we know how much our pastor enjoys singing, judging by the bi-monthly "you guys need to start singing" sermon.

I am assuming -- judging by your attack on the flapper -- that you are not a fan of the flapping. Neither am I. I think its gαy. But you cannot deny that our pastor implemented it with a happy object in mind, which is to get the parish to participate in the beauty of the liturgy. With all of that being said, your post is slightly retarded.