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Author Topic: The flappers are back  (Read 6610 times)

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Offline Mark 79

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The flappers are back
« on: March 24, 2024, 03:45:54 PM »
Flapping away center stage at OLOS.

Re: The flappers are back
« Reply #1 on: March 24, 2024, 03:54:05 PM »
Do you have a picture?  What happened?


Offline Mark 79

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Re: The flappers are back
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2024, 09:43:04 PM »
Just the same old "center stage" flapping.  Before V2 I never saw any chant or choir in view of the "audience." It is unseemly and I hate it.… about as much as I hate 5 bells at the consecrations— something else I never saw before V2.

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The flappers are back
« Reply #3 on: March 25, 2024, 06:11:23 AM »
I forgot what our ultimate consensus was on the other thread, but if I recall, the only reason the flappers are up front is because they're (illegitimately) taking the place of an actual liturgical/clerical choir, which used to be up front, in the sanctuary.  Even at seminary, I must admit that I didn't care for this at all, although there the flapping was generally hidden from the faithful as we were in a circle formation and the flapper kept his hands low, below the heads of the seminarians.  IMO, you do not need a flapper in order to be able to keep time.  I played violin in orchestra and sang in the top choir at STAS, and I don't think I ever even looked at the flapper.  I was looking at the musical notation.  Flappers serve no purpose other than to create a spectacle ... which during the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass reduce to a huge distraction.

They probably brought the flappers back for Holy Week.  Are these the post-1955 Holy Week Rites that require more "participation of the faithful"?

Offline Ladislaus

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Re: The flappers are back
« Reply #4 on: March 25, 2024, 06:19:03 AM »
... about as much as I hate 5 bells at the consecrations— something else I never saw before V2.

I don't care for that either.  It's meant to specifically highlight the elevation (in case you weren't paying attention, I guess, and missed the first bell, or have trouble counting).  But everything else in the Mass is in 3s, in honor of the Holy Trinity.   I guess maybe they look at this as 3 within a 3.