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The Eucharistic Miracle of Buenos Aires
« on: December 28, 2015, 10:35:08 AM »
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  • No, we Catholics do not draw theological conclusions from alleged miracles.  It's very easy for the devil to fake a miracle precisely in order to legitimize the New Mass.


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    « Reply #1 on: December 31, 2015, 06:00:37 PM »
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    Bump the messenger.  Matthew, could you please get rid of this guy?


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    « Reply #2 on: December 31, 2015, 06:18:27 PM »
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    Bump the messenger.  Matthew, could you please get rid of this guy?


    For what?  Bringing a news item up?

    If this miracle turns out to be legitimate, I'd like to be informed of it.


    The Utah Eucharist "miracle" turned out to be red mold, by the way.
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #3 on: December 31, 2015, 07:51:42 PM »
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    Bump the messenger.  Matthew, could you please get rid of this guy?


    For what?  Bringing a news item up?

    If this miracle turns out to be legitimate, I'd like to be informed of it.


    The Utah Eucharist "miracle" turned out to be red mold, by the way.


    You clearly haven't seen his other posts.

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    « Reply #4 on: December 31, 2015, 08:39:48 PM »
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    Bump from the messenger.


    Bump the messenger.  Matthew, could you please get rid of this guy?


    For what?  Bringing a news item up?

    If this miracle turns out to be legitimate, I'd like to be informed of it.


    The Utah Eucharist "miracle" turned out to be red mold, by the way.


    You clearly haven't seen his other posts.


    True.  I haven't. But even a broken clock is right twice a day.  If he's bringing up an actual news item, I'd like to know a bit more about it.  

    Have they confirmed it's an actual miracle?  
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    « Reply #5 on: January 01, 2016, 12:18:52 AM »
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  • The priesthood doesn't need any miracles to confirm it.

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    « Reply #6 on: January 01, 2016, 02:01:30 AM »
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    The priesthood doesn't need any miracles to confirm it.


    Even though the priesthood typically--100% of the time, actually--has been confirmed by miracles throughout Scripture.

    I swear.  There's so many people who will say "I don't need miracles to affirm what I believe."  Or, there's always this one:  "It's a private revelation, and it means nothing to me."  

    I'd hazard to guess that's one of the reasons miracles don't happen anymore.  People don't want them.  
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    « Reply #7 on: January 01, 2016, 04:40:40 AM »
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    The priesthood doesn't need any miracles to confirm it.


    Even though the priesthood typically--100% of the time, actually--has been confirmed by miracles throughout Scripture.

    I swear.  There's so many people who will say "I don't need miracles to affirm what I believe."  Or, there's always this one:  "It's a private revelation, and it means nothing to me."  

    I'd hazard to guess that's one of the reasons miracles don't happen anymore.  People don't want them.  


    This comes from St John of the Cross.


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    « Reply #8 on: January 01, 2016, 05:13:05 AM »
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    The priesthood doesn't need any miracles to confirm it.


    Even though the priesthood typically--100% of the time, actually--has been confirmed by miracles throughout Scripture.

    I swear.  There's so many people who will say "I don't need miracles to affirm what I believe."  Or, there's always this one:  "It's a private revelation, and it means nothing to me."  

    I'd hazard to guess that's one of the reasons miracles don't happen anymore.  People don't want them.  


    This comes from St John of the Cross.



    My historical argument comes from The Old and New Testament.

    The priesthood, thoughout the ages, has had miracles that confirm it.  

    I know you hate miracles, but they actually happened, and they continue to happen.  And they do matter.  God doesn't whisper to us, just for us to ignore Him.  You can continue to do that--as will everyone else.  But I, for one, will be slow to dismiss what comes from Heaven.  
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle

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    « Reply #9 on: January 03, 2016, 12:47:19 AM »
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    The priesthood doesn't need any miracles to confirm it.


    Even though the priesthood typically--100% of the time, actually--has been confirmed by miracles throughout Scripture.

    I swear.  There's so many people who will say "I don't need miracles to affirm what I believe."  Or, there's always this one:  "It's a private revelation, and it means nothing to me."  

    I'd hazard to guess that's one of the reasons miracles don't happen anymore.  People don't want them.  


    This comes from St John of the Cross.



    My historical argument comes from The Old and New Testament.

    The priesthood, thoughout the ages, has had miracles that confirm it.  

    I know you hate miracles, but they actually happened, and they continue to happen.  And they do matter.  God doesn't whisper to us, just for us to ignore Him.  You can continue to do that--as will everyone else.  But I, for one, will be slow to dismiss what comes from Heaven.  


    I don't hate miracles. I don't doubt that they happen.