Author Topic: "Res Sacramenti" (Read 9439 times)

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #85 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:03:11 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

To take Eamon's assertion that the union of the Mystical Body must be signified during the consecration, isn't it signified simply by "THIS IS MY BODY" ?

No, it is not so signified. I will explain tomorrow (or when I am able).

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #86 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:06:40 PM »

Quote from: Caminus

When a strong and faithful Pope ascends to the Throne of Peter, the heretics and schismatics will be truly manifested and they will thus formalize their sins.

Their "sins" will only be "formalized" after some kind of official process, right?

As you see it, nothing can be formalized without the legal process being involved, no?

gladius_veritatis · « **Reply #87 on:** June 04, 2011, 10:08:00 PM »

Quote from: Raoul76

To take Eamon's assertion that the union of the Mystical Body must be signified...

FWIW, it is not MY assertion. It is what is taught in Apostolicae Curae, among other places.

Cristian · « **Reply #88 on:** June 05, 2011, 08:34:31 AM »

Quote from: Raoul76

When we speak of the sacrament of the Eucharist, and what must be signified in the sacrament, and the form of the sacrament, are we only talking about the portion of the Mass where the priest consecrates the bread and wine -- THIS IS MY BODY and THIS IS MY BLOOD, etc. -- or is the entire Mass part of the sacrament of the Eucharist? In other words, can all the prayers and preparations that lead up to the consecration be considered a necessary part of the consecration, part of the form of the sacrament?

The essence of the Mass is the twofold consecration, therefore what must be signified must be there, and in fact it is, both in the matter and in the form.