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Here's the full Papal Impostors series.

Just finished watching the 11 of 12 about Siri and the VatII "popes". It sounds very plausible, I believe it, however, what about since 1989, the year he died? Who is the pope the last 24 years?

BXVI was the first one elected at a conclave after the death of Card. Siri/Pope Gregory XVII.  Gets more interesting if BXVI was forced out under duress.

But then we still have the question of BXVI as true pope as a result of his actions as pope (even if he was the first validly elected pope).

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BTW - I was not the one who thumbed you down.  Not sure why you would be thumbed down for that post.

There are clearly some malicious random thumbers floating around on this forum.

I tend to think there are specific people who have decided against a certain poster and down thumb that poster often.  I notice that for the most part my numbers don't change despite repeated thumbing (up or down).  That tells me that my down thumbers are the same people and they just don't have a life other than to down thumb me (or they don't have the guts to tell me to my face). I think it's funny after awhile.  

Edit:  Looking at my current numbers it looks like my "likers" number went down.  I don't get it.  I think we should remove this option altogether.

Not crazy by any means.

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Not crazy by any means.

I don't think so either.  It makes about as much sense as any other explanation of this 50 year mess.  And BXVI, who would be the first one validly elected since Cardinal Siri's death, has arguably been the most orthodox since VII and was potentially coerced into stepping down.

The communists and the jews would definitely prefer Roncalli to Siri and Bergy to Ratzinger.

Granted, it appeared that BXVI was orthodox, but I still question that.  I would agree that he was probably the best of the anti-popes (if that is possible).

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Quote from: Geremia

Here's the full Papal Impostors series.

Just finished watching the 11 of 12 about Siri and the VatII "popes". It sounds very plausible, I believe it, however, what about since 1989, the year he died? Who is the pope the last 24 years?

BXVI was the first one elected at a conclave after the death of Card. Siri/Pope Gregory XVII.  Gets more interesting if BXVI was forced out under duress.

Or, if Bergoglio is Ratzinger's beard.

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Quote from: Geremia

Here's the full Papal Impostors series.

Just finished watching the 11 of 12 about Siri and the VatII "popes". It sounds very plausible, I believe it, however, what about since 1989, the year he died? Who is the pope the last 24 years?

BXVI was the first one elected at a conclave after the death of Card. Siri/Pope Gregory XVII.  Gets more interesting if BXVI was forced out under duress.

Yes, indeed.
As I mentioned on the Sedebenediciplenism thread, he might actually be a true pope now that he's resigned as leader of the schismatic Conciliar Church sect.

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Quote from: Geremia

Here's the full Papal Impostors series.

Just finished watching the 11 of 12 about Siri and the VatII "popes". It sounds very plausible, I believe it, however, what about since 1989, the year he died? Who is the pope the last 24 years?

BXVI was the first one elected at a conclave after the death of Card. Siri/Pope Gregory XVII.  Gets more interesting if BXVI was forced out under duress.

Yes, indeed.
As I mentioned on the Sedebenediciplenism thread, he might actually be a true pope now that he's resigned as leader of the schismatic Conciliar Church sect.

EH, I would think that he would need to make it public that he resigned because of it.  Otherwise, his resignation just looks lame (when compared to other resignations).

It's all about connecting a bunch of dots.

1) Our Lady said that Russia would be the instrument of God's chastisement of the world.  V2 can be seen as God's chastisement of the world.

2) Sister Lucy said that Our Lady wanted the Third Secret reavealed before 1960 because it "would be much clearer then".

3) Bella Dodd revealed that Communists had been infiltrating high positions in the Church.

4) Roncalli was notorious for his association with high ranking Communists (and Freemasons).  US State Department warned Pius XII of this and kept a file on Roncalli in that regard.

5) Two independent sources claim that Roncalli knew beforehand that his election would be arranged, and one of these explicitly states that it was planned by Masonic forces in the Vatican.

6) Once source indicates that Siri was pressured (by Communist agents within the conclave) into resigning by threats of atrocities against bishops and priests operating behind the Iron Curtain, and another even suggets that Russia threatened to nuke the Vatican.

7) It was considered almost certain that Siri would be elected pope.

8) While offering Mass during the sedevacante period, a dove landed on Cardinal Siri's shoulder, which many took to be a sign of the Holy Spirit's selection of Siri.

9) Siri was very anti-Communist.

10) Among Roncalli's first actions was to establish diplomatic ties with the Communists.

11) Roncalli promised that V2 would not condemn Communism (which most people though was the purpose of V2 going in) ... in exchange for the Orthodox schismatics sending representatives to V2.

12) Roncalli's election was hailed by leading Communist and Freemasonic publications.

13) Roncalli's first encyclical Pacem in Terris referred in very cryptic terms to a "mysterious force" rising in the world.  "Mysterious Force" was an early name for Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ (look it up).

14) Roncalli's first appointment as Cardinal was Montini, who had been refused the red hat by Pius XII because he was implicated with outing bishops and priests operating clandestinely behind the Iron Curtain.

15) Montini publicly wore the Judaeo-Freemasonic "ephod of Caiaphas" but stopped wearing it after being outed by the Abbe De Nantes regarding this.

16) Former FBI Consultant cites State Deparment docuмents (we know the US had moles inside the conclave just as the Soviets did) which indicate that Siri was elected and even mentioned the name he chose (Gregory XVII).

17) Malachi Martin says that Siri was elected.

18) Smoke signal "problems" in 1958, where the smoke was white for a full five minutes and even sources within the conclave confirmed that a Pope had been elected.

19) Cardinal Siri, when asked if he was elected said that he was bound by the secret but that "very serious" matters took place within the conclave.

20) JPI was a known Communist sympathizer.

21) Karol Wojtyla was suspected of being a "Pax Priest" (Communist collaborator).  While Cardinal Wyszynski was under house arrest, Bishop Wojtyla was touring the world giving lectures on phenomenology.

22) V2 reads like a veritable Freemasonic Manifesto, enshrining into NO theology the principles of liberte (Religious Liberty), egalite (priesthood of the faithful, collegiality), and fraternite (Ecuмenism).

23) Horrific fruits of Vatican II.

24) That the Holy Spirit protects the Pope and the Church and that a legitimate Pope cannot lead the entire Church into error through his authoritative teaching.

25) Our Lady of LaSalette referring to Rome losing the faith and becoming the Seat of the Antichrist.  Antichrist is referred to in Scripture as "dissolving Christ" and by various saints as setting up a religion of man.  One can cite myriad references to that effect from the V2 papal claimants.

26) St. Francis of Assisi gave prophecies about an uncanonically elected pope who would try to destroy the Church.

Too many dots to ignore here.  I'm sure that I missed quite a few also.  These are just what come off the top of my head.