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Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
« Reply #30 on: July 19, 2017, 02:13:24 PM »
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  • Many human beings can discern what is true.  Many cannot.  Some, who can discern that truth refuse to do so.  Usually for moral and or emotional reasons.  Those of good will do accept the truth if they are capable of doing so.  Not everyone is of good will.  We just have to see the news to be aware of that.  Those who go on an emotional rant such as yours might be a candidate.  God knows.  
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #31 on: July 19, 2017, 05:23:44 PM »
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  • Many human beings can discern what is true.  Many cannot.  Some, who can discern that truth refuse to do so.  Usually for moral and or emotional reasons.  Those of good will do accept the truth if they are capable of doing so.  Not everyone is of good will.  We just have to see the news to be aware of that.  Those who go on an emotional rant such as yours might be a candidate.  God knows.  
    All men are given the sufficient grace to find the truth.  This potentially makes each one able to do so, and they will if they are of good will towards God. Those who do not are not men of good will. If one is of His elect is in some way deficient, God will see to his conversion so that such a one can fulfill his obligations and find the path of salvation.


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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #32 on: July 20, 2017, 05:43:54 AM »
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  • All men are given the sufficient grace to find the truth.  This potentially makes each one able to do so, and they will if they are of good will towards God. Those who do not are not men of good will. If one is of His elect is in some way deficient, God will see to his conversion so that such a one can fulfill his obligations and find the path of salvation.
    You can't wish infallible truth away.  There is nothing wrong with what you state above.  But I'm supposing you mean ultimately all of good will get water poured on their heads without exception before they die as this is the only way they obtain sanctifying grace.  To do this however, you over rule countless far more qualified than you.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #33 on: July 20, 2017, 06:54:08 AM »
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  • Another envious dust mite trying to get the Dimond's attention.

    Nobody reads the never ending spam that you post here, meanwhile the Dimond's website has more viewers than all the other trad sights put together.


    That's right. And no other religion believes one can be saved outside of them selves. They must be laughing at "Traditional Catholics".

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #34 on: July 20, 2017, 06:56:52 AM »
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  • That's right. And no other religion believes one can be saved outside of them selves. They must be laughing at "Traditional Catholics".
    Various types of things etc.  They don't read spam but they sure make alot of comments.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #35 on: July 20, 2017, 07:23:26 AM »
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  • Various types of things etc.  They don't read spam but they sure make alot of comments.
    They do not read what you write because you have worn out your welcome, you only get one chance to make a first impression and you blew it. AJNC only commented on what I wrote, I'm certain that he, like all the others that have been here a while, know you and does not read what you post. 

    ALL the innumerable never ending postings you have made on CI amounts to this:

    1) Become a sedevacantes, it is truth.
    2) Believe that  "good willed" Protestants, Jєωs, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists.... can be saved, it is truth
    3) Anyone that says the contrary are bad willed and liars.
    The Vatican II church - Assisting Souls to Hell Since 1962

    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall show great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. Mat 24:24

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #36 on: July 20, 2017, 07:24:56 AM »
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  • They do not read what you write because you have worn out your welcome, you only get one chance to make a first impression and you blew it. AJNC only commented on what I wrote, I'm certain that he, like all the others, do not read what you post. ALL the innumerable never ending postings you have made on CI amounts to this:
    1) Become a sedevacantes, it is truth.
    2) believe that  Protestants, Jєωs, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists.... can be saved, it is truth
    3) anyone that says the contrary are bad willed and liars.
    I pray you understand the truth before it is too late.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #37 on: July 20, 2017, 07:25:52 AM »
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  • They do not read what you write because you have worn out your welcome, you only get one chance to make a first impression and you blew it. AJNC only commented on what I wrote, I'm certain that he, like all the others, do not read what you post. ALL the innumerable never ending postings you have made on CI amounts to this:
    1) Become a sedevacantes, it is truth.
    2) believe that  Protestants, Jєωs, Mohamedans, Hindus, Buddhists.... can be saved, it is truth
    3) anyone that says the contrary are bad willed and liars.
    Sad, but this is truth.

    You would think that one who calls himself a lover of truth would appreciate this truth so he could correct himself - no?
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse


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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #38 on: July 20, 2017, 07:27:57 AM »
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  • Sad, but this is truth.

    You would think that one who calls himself a lover of truth would appreciate this truth so he could correct himself - no?
    False and false.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #39 on: July 20, 2017, 07:29:34 AM »
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  • You can't wish infallible truth away.  There is nothing wrong with what you state above.  But I'm supposing you mean ultimately all of good will get water poured on their heads without exception before they die as this is the only way they obtain sanctifying grace.  To do this however, you over rule countless far more qualified than you.
    Actually it is the author of all life and the sole means of salvation who your countless qualified would dispute according to you,
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    "He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned."
    And he who believeth, believeth that the Lord's word is true and not the opposite of what He has declared.
    There is no no one in all creation who is qualified to add to, remove from, or reinterpret His commands.

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #40 on: July 20, 2017, 07:38:41 AM »
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  • Actually it is the author of all life and the sole means of salvation who your countless qualified would dispute according to you,And he who believeth, believeth that the Lord's word is true and not the opposite of what He has declared.
    There is no no one in all creation who is qualified to add to, remove from, or reinterpret His commands.
    Poor Aquinas and the rest just never understood that verse.  At least we got you to set him strait.  Do you even take yourself seriously?
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church


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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #41 on: July 20, 2017, 11:35:38 AM »
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  • Poor Aquinas and the rest just never understood that verse.  At least we got you to set him strait.  Do you even take yourself seriously?
    Apparently more seriously than you do yourself, as I believe that there is no salvation outside of the true Church, the true Religion, and the Sacraments. But you say otherwise. Good luck to you.

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #42 on: July 20, 2017, 11:37:53 AM »
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  • Aquinas taught BOD.  You claim he is wrong.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #43 on: July 20, 2017, 12:09:42 PM »
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  • Aquinas taught BOD.  You claim he is wrong.

    He did not, however, teach Pelagianism.  You claim he is wrong on that.

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    Re: The Dimonds, the Devil, and the Willfully Duped
    « Reply #44 on: July 20, 2017, 12:21:04 PM »
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  • He did not, however, teach Pelagianism.  You claim he is wrong on that.
    He did not falsely accuse others of it as you do.
    "I receive Thee, redeeming Prince of my soul. Out of love for Thee have I studied, watched through many nights, and exerted myself: Thee did I preach and teach. I have never said aught against Thee. Nor do I persist stubbornly in my views. If I have ever expressed myself erroneously on this Sacrament, I submit to the judgement of the Holy Roman Church, in obedience of which I now part from this world." Saint Thomas Aquinas the greatest Doctor of the Church