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The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
« on: August 04, 2021, 11:39:43 PM »
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  • Christopher has another two-part series on Defeat Modernism, this time covering a Chiesa Viva article on the New Mass and it's ʝʊdɛօ-Masonic roots. It's quite honestly, kind of scary in my opinion.

    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #1 on: August 05, 2021, 10:22:44 AM »
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  • Thanks for posting. I have found Fr Villa's work quite informative. I see that the channel owner interviewed Dennis Wise. Good on him.
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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #2 on: August 05, 2021, 10:36:53 AM »
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  • These Chiesa Viva magazines are all very interesting, but I have always asked myself if they were trustworthy. Somethings sound so fantastic that they are hard to believe. Added to the lack of sources and citations, it all sounds very dubious to me.

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #3 on: August 05, 2021, 11:33:56 AM »
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  • These Chiesa Viva magazines are all very interesting, but I have always asked myself if they were trustworthy. Somethings sound so fantastic that they are hard to believe. Added to the lack of sources and citations, it all sounds very dubious to me.

    Masonic cօռspιʀαcιҽs are complex and fantastic.  Men of evil hearts spend all their time concocting them.

    As for sources, you are always able to cross reference and dig them out.  I heard a similar complaint about Mary Ball Martinez's, "The Undermining of the Catholic Church".   Her claims were fantastic to many judaized neo-trads.

    But she proved to be right on the money and she provided a lot of dates and locations that could be easily cross referenced.

    Another example of missing sources on anti-Catholic crimes might be the Jesuits.  In the old days, their information network revealed the most fantastic stories.
    Joe McCarthy who exposed the massive ʝʊdɛօ-communist infiltration in FDR's administration got his information from the Jesuit network.  

    At the time, no sources were provided.



    Father Feeney was also well connected to the Jesuit network and used it to unveil Jєωιѕн-masonic cօռspιʀαcιҽs which he wrote about in his newsletter, "The Point".
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #4 on: August 05, 2021, 11:49:40 AM »
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  • Some things sound so fantastic that they are hard to believe. 

    The idea of a “non-Catholic Pope” used to be utterly inconceivable. Yet there are many, even in this very forum, who now embrace it. And get this: they call themselves traditionalists! 

    Much more could be mentioned; for example, 20 years ago it was inconceivable that tranny freaks would be allowed to read to our children in libraries without lynch mobs of parents waiting to destroy said freaks and their enablers. 

    Much, much more could be mentioned. 
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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #5 on: August 05, 2021, 12:02:14 PM »
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  • The idea of a “non-Catholic Pope” used to be utterly inconceivable. Yet there are many, even in this very forum, who now embrace it. And get this: they call themselves traditionalists!

    Much more could be mentioned; for example, 20 years ago it was inconceivable that tranny freaks would be allowed to read to our children in libraries without lynch mobs of parents waiting to destroy said freaks and their enablers.

    Much, much more could be mentioned.
    5 years ago I found it inconceivable that we might be so close to the End Times. But alas, here we are!
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #6 on: August 05, 2021, 12:14:37 PM »
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  • This edition, for instance:
    https://www.yumpu.com/en/docuмent/read/11915205/the-satanic-miter-of-bxvi-en-chiesa-viva

    All this numerology could very well be true, but it does seem kind of random.
    I remember seeing an image of an All Seeing Eye in a tabernacle, in an old, pre-Vatican II church. Is it a satanic tabernacle, or is it just a representantion of the omniscience of God?

    I believe and I understand that the world is governed by conspirators, but I need a plausible explanation to believe in a supposed conspiracy.
    Otherwise, we end up believing in anything that satisfyes our inclinations. We cannot allow passions to cloud our reason. 

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #7 on: August 05, 2021, 12:32:28 PM »
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  • All this numerology could very well be true, but it does seem kind of random.
    I remember seeing an image of an All Seeing Eye in a tabernacle, in an old, pre-Vatican II church. Is it a satanic tabernacle, or is it just a representantion of the omniscience of God?
    And, unfortunately, not a lot of people look at this without passion...It was originally a Catholic symbol called the Eye of Providence that was utilized and repurposed by secret societies. And even then, there is a precedent for the symbol in may religions predating Catholicism, just as the cross in and of itself was utilized by pre-Catholic pagan religions. But it all depends on how the symbol is being utilized.

    Protestants make this error, because they lack supernatural Faith, when pointing out how a symbol is found in Catholicism but also a pagan religion as if it were evidence of Catholicism being untrue, such as the obelisk in front of the Vatican.
    "Be not therefore solicitous for tomorrow; for the morrow will be solicitous for itself. Sufficient for the day is the evil thereof." [Matt. 6:34]

    "In all thy works remember thy last end, and thou shalt never sin." [Ecclus. 7:40]

    "A holy man continueth in wisdom as the sun: but a fool is changed as the moon." [Ecclus. 27:12]


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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #8 on: August 05, 2021, 12:42:37 PM »
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  • 5 years ago I found it inconceivable that we might be so close to the End Times. But alas, here we are!

    Related:

    -I identify as masked and vaxxed. 
    -Slavish fear is the deadliest virus. 
    -“For God hath not given us the spirit of fear: but of power, and of love, and of sobriety.” (2 Tim. 1:7)

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #9 on: August 05, 2021, 01:29:18 PM »
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  • So I've listened to about the first 17 minutes of the video posted by OP, and it's really fascinating.

    Are these docuмents legitimately written by and to Bugnini himself?

    He emphasizes replacing the offertory, replacing the Our Lord as the Victim being offered, with the offering of the bread and wife, the fruits of the earth.  And he recalls how God was pleased with the sacrifice of Abel, who sacrificed animals, but displeased with Cain who offered the "fruits of the earth".  So the intent was to deliberately call to mind the DISPLEASING sacrifice of Cain to God vs. the pleasing sacrifice of Abel.

    Of course, this section alone, the destruction of the Offertory, completely vitiates the Sacrifice of the Mass.  Instead of offering Our Lord Himself to God, we offer some bread and wine, the "work of human hands".

    I also recall that this expression resembles some Jєωιѕн prayer.

    But if these docuмents are legitimate, it shows that this NOM was deliberately engineered to displease God.  At first I thought it may have been done in an "Ecuмenical spirit" ... but it would appear that the spirit was entirely diabolical.  I have long suspected that all this destruction was done deliberately, in bad faith, by conscious enemies of the Church, but this seems to back it up with some real evidence.

    Does anyone have a link to the written article as his automated reader is a bit annoying (though better than most)?  I'd like to actually see the prints of those letters that appear to have been written by Bugnini himself.

    So Bugnini calls this the "Ace up [his] sleeve" where he vitiates the Catholic Mass where "nobody [would] notice".


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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #11 on: August 05, 2021, 02:07:34 PM »
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  • Franco Adessa writes:

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    These letters were delivered to me years ago by Don Luigi Villa with the hope that, one day, they could throw some light on certain "creativity" in the liturgical field.

    I wonder why Don Luigi didn't publish these letters years ago. Why would he give them to Adessa instead of publishing them? And why "hope that, one day, they could ... "? Couldn't they years ago, already?
    That meaning of the sacred dogmas is ever to be maintained which has once been declared by holy mother church. (Dei Filius)

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #12 on: August 05, 2021, 02:23:47 PM »
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  • I also recall that this expression resembles some Jєωιѕн prayer.

    Craig Heimbichner wrote a book on the topic titled, “Blood on the Altar”.

    His research showed that the Novus ordo Offertory included an ejaculation from the тαℓмυd.

    So tainted is the new mass, it deserves the be called, “The Great Sacrilege”.
    "Some preachers will keep silence about the truth, and others will trample it underfoot and deny it. Sanctity of life will be held in derision even by those who outwardly profess it, for in those days Our Lord Jesus Christ will send them not a true Pastor but a destroyer."  St. Francis of Assisi

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #13 on: August 05, 2021, 02:25:28 PM »
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  • I will look at the video. My strongest impression is that Paul VI was far greater of an enemy to the true Mass than +Bugnini who suggested a universal version of the English 'Heenan' or 'Agatha Christie' indult, which was to happen by 1984 with Quattuor Abhinc Annos and readily gave indults to such as the Rosminian Fr Charles-Roux (later chaplain to Mel Gibson for the incomparable Passion of the Christ) or Fr Josemaria Escriva (who did not seek it but Paul's liturgist heard how he struggled with the New Order). Was it blackmail coming from the obvious Paolo Carlini angle or given his betrayal of priests struggling in Eastern Europe, Paul was moved by a deeply evil spirit?

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    Re: The Diabolical Secret of the New Mass of Paul VI
    « Reply #14 on: August 05, 2021, 02:45:40 PM »
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    Of course, this section alone, the destruction of the Offertory, completely vitiates the Sacrifice of the Mass.  Instead of offering Our Lord Himself to God, we offer some bread and wine, the "work of human hands".

    Agree.  I've long held that the dubious Offertory invalidates the Mass, as a whole, even if the consecration is valid (which is also dubious).  There is no mass, there is no perfect sacrifice, there is no Calvary, if the Offertory is gutted.  But such is over-looked by most.