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Offline poche

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« on: October 31, 2014, 03:14:01 AM »
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  •  The devil exists and must be fought, Pope Francis said in a homily in the Vatican on Thursday. "This generation, and many others, have been led to believe that the devil is a myth, a figure, an idea, the idea of evil.
        But the devil exists and we must fight against him," the pope told faithful gathered for Mass at St Martha's guesthouse where he resides. "But we are not totally convinced," continued Francis, exhorting Christians to put on "the armour of God: the truth".
        "Life is a militia. The Christian life is a fight, a beautiful fight, because when the lord is victorious in every step of our lives he gives us joy," the Pope said. http://popefrancisnewsapp.com/


    http://www.ansa.it/english/news/vatican/2014/10/30/devil-not-a-myth-says-pope_3d666c6c-5ba3-44e0-9730-ed95a07c46ee.html


    Offline Ladislaus

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    « Reply #1 on: October 31, 2014, 09:02:51 AM »
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  • What does that say about Francis when he says the devil exists but that God does not?


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    The Devil is Real
    « Reply #2 on: October 31, 2014, 09:35:18 AM »
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  • Yes, The Devil exists. And it is Francis who believes that there is no Catholic God,
    and that God does not exist except in the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit.
    Giving into the trinitarian heresy that Catholics worship three gods, not one
    God in three divine persons.

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    « Reply #3 on: October 31, 2014, 10:21:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    What does that say about Francis when he says the devil exists but that God does not?


    What does that say of someone like you who still "doesn't know" if this antichrist is the Pope or not?

    You only look more and more ridiculous with every criticism you make.

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    « Reply #4 on: October 31, 2014, 10:25:50 AM »
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  • Quote from: Disputaciones
    Quote from: Ladislaus
    What does that say about Francis when he says the devil exists but that God does not?


    What does that say of someone like you who still "doesn't know" if this antichrist is the Pope or not?

    You only look more and more ridiculous with every criticism you make.


    What does it say about the caliber of your intellect when you can't discern a tongue-in-cheek criticism?  I do not for one second believe that Francis does not believe in the existence of God.

    You guys are bitter to the point of being downright evil.



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    « Reply #5 on: October 31, 2014, 12:04:54 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
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    Quote from: Ladislaus
    What does that say about Francis when he says the devil exists but that God does not?


    What does that say of someone like you who still "doesn't know" if this antichrist is the Pope or not?

    You only look more and more ridiculous with every criticism you make.


    What does it say about the caliber of your intellect when you can't discern a tongue-in-cheek criticism?  I do not for one second believe that Francis does not believe in the existence of God.

    You guys are bitter to the point of being downright evil.


    Because you don't get your criticisms aren't allowable and are sinful even if you're in doubt.

    Offline Capt McQuigg

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    « Reply #6 on: October 31, 2014, 04:53:56 PM »
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  • People who follow Pope Francis need a scorecard to keep track of all the disparate quotes.  He denied a "Catholic God" and he has no doubt the "Devil is real" and he misuses the word "pelagians" while trashing Traditionalists as "pharisees".  He allows a docuмent to be written where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "valued" then he changes it.  

    Next time we hear a quote from Pope Francis we should all ask ourselves:  What day is today?  

    If he says something wildly modernistic or seems to deride the Catholic Church and Her glory, we should say:  Let's wait and see what he says tomorrow.


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    « Reply #7 on: October 31, 2014, 05:40:14 PM »
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  • He is certainly loose, but as long as he is canonically elected, he is still the pope!

    Matthew 23:1-3

    "Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples,  Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not."


    God will ensure no ex-cathedra errors are made.


    Thus, if he comes round to visit, we must show him due deference and provide tea and cakes.


    "Even if that vicar were a devil incarnate, I must not defy him, but calmly lie down to rest on his bosom... He who rebels against our Father is condemned to death, for that which we do to him we do to Christ: we honor Christ if we honor the Pope; we dishonor Christ if we dishonor the Pope."
    (Letter to Bernabo Visconti)


    "Divine obedience never prevents us from obedience to the Holy Father: nay, the more perfect the one, the more perfect is the other. And we ought always to be subject to his commands and obedient unto death. However indiscreet obedience to him might seem, and however it should deprive us of mental peace and consolation, we ought to obey; and I consider that to do the opposite is a great imperfection, and deceit of the devil." (Letter to Brother Antonio of Nizza).




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    « Reply #8 on: October 31, 2014, 07:26:23 PM »
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  • Quote from: andysloan
    He is certainly loose, but as long as he is canonically elected, he is still the pope!

    Matthew 23:1-3

    "Then Jesus spoke to the multitudes and to his disciples,  Saying: The scribes and the Pharisees have sitten on the chair of Moses. All things therefore whatsoever they shall say to you, observe and do: but according to their works do ye not; for they say, and do not."


    I guess that you don't believe in a Catholic God nor that God exists then, since you're quoting this passage?

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    « Reply #9 on: October 31, 2014, 11:05:29 PM »
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  • They need to hear "Francis Watch" on restoration radio from yesterday already posted
    online.  It is not evil to know the truth.

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    « Reply #10 on: October 31, 2014, 11:50:49 PM »
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  • Disputaciones said:


    "I guess that you don't believe in a Catholic God nor that God exists then, since you're quoting this passage? "


    Whatever they shall say ex-cathedra




     "No popes in the history of the Church have ever made ex cathedra errors."

    Rev. Joseph Iannuzzi, theologian of the Gregorian Pontifical University, private letter



    Vatican 1 - Infallible Council



    Chapter 2. On the permanence of the primacy of blessed Peter in the Roman pontiffs


        That which our Lord Jesus Christ, the prince of shepherds and great shepherd of the sheep, established in the blessed apostle Peter, for the continual salvation and permanent benefit of the church, must of necessity remain for ever, by Christ's authority, in the church which, founded as it is upon a rock, will stand firm until the end of time  .

        For no one can be in doubt, indeed it was known in every age that the holy and most blessed Peter, prince and head of the apostles, the pillar of faith and the foundation of the catholic church, received the keys of the kingdom from our Lord Jesus Christ, the saviour and redeemer of the human race, and that to this day and for ever he lives and presides and exercises judgment in his successors the bishops of the holy Roman see, which he founded and consecrated with his blood.



    And private declaration against the Popes is prohibited Our Lord:


    Matthew 18:15-17

    "But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother.

    And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.





    "St. Jerome - in saying that a heretic departs on his own from the Body of Christ - does not preclude the Church's judgment, especially in so grave a matter as is the deposition of a pope. He refers instead to the nature of that crime, which is such as to cut someone off from the Church on its own and without other censure in addition to it - yet only so long as it should be declared by the Church... So long as he has not become declared to us juridically as an infidel or heretic, be he ever so manifestly heretical according to private judgment, he remains as far as we are concerned a member of the Church and consequently its head. Judgment is required by the Church. It is only then that he ceases to be Pope as far as we are concerned" (Theologian - John of St. Thomas d. 1644 RIP).


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    « Reply #11 on: November 01, 2014, 06:28:26 AM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    People who follow Pope Francis need a scorecard to keep track of all the disparate quotes.  He denied a "Catholic God" and he has no doubt the "Devil is real" and he misuses the word "pelagians" while trashing Traditionalists as "pharisees".  He allows a docuмent to be written where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "valued" then he changes it.  

    Next time we hear a quote from Pope Francis we should all ask ourselves:  What day is today?  

    If he says something wildly modernistic or seems to deride the Catholic Church and Her glory, we should say:  Let's wait and see what he says tomorrow.



    LOL.  Francis the Modernist's motto should be:  You may not like what I have to say today, but you might like it tomorrow.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)

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    « Reply #12 on: November 03, 2014, 04:53:58 AM »
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  • Quote from: Ladislaus
    What does that say about Francis when he says the devil exists but that God does not?


    There can be no devil if there is no God.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 03, 2014, 08:55:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    People who follow Pope Francis need a scorecard to keep track of all the disparate quotes.  He denied a "Catholic God" and he has no doubt the "Devil is real" and he misuses the word "pelagians" while trashing Traditionalists as "pharisees".  He allows a docuмent to be written where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "valued" then he changes it.  

    Next time we hear a quote from Pope Francis we should all ask ourselves:  What day is today?  

    If he says something wildly modernistic or seems to deride the Catholic Church and Her glory, we should say:  Let's wait and see what he says tomorrow.


    Could it be that people of bad will are deliberatly quoting Pope Francis out of context?

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    « Reply #14 on: November 05, 2014, 06:01:18 PM »
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  • Quote from: poche
    Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    People who follow Pope Francis need a scorecard to keep track of all the disparate quotes.  He denied a "Catholic God" and he has no doubt the "Devil is real" and he misuses the word "pelagians" while trashing Traditionalists as "pharisees".  He allows a docuмent to be written where ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs are "valued" then he changes it.  

    Next time we hear a quote from Pope Francis we should all ask ourselves:  What day is today?  

    If he says something wildly modernistic or seems to deride the Catholic Church and Her glory, we should say:  Let's wait and see what he says tomorrow.


    Could it be that people of bad will are deliberatly quoting Pope Francis out of context?


    Nah. I think it's much more likely that people of bad will use that as an excuse over and over again.
    For there shall arise false Christs and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders, insomuch as to deceive (if possible) even the elect. (Matthew 24:24)