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Offline Thorn

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« on: December 01, 2011, 01:52:31 PM »
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  • The Vatican has approved the purchase of the Crystal Cathedral by the Diocese of Orange.
    The Crystal Cathedral would seem to be a perfect match for the NO, after seeing those grotesque pictures posted by sevenseas in another thread, of what's in the Vatican.
     
    I don't know if you'll be able to make it out in pictures, but look on the right in pictures of the inside of the Cathedral, right under the pulpit on the veined pink marble.  There you will see in the veins a very good 'picture' of a ram's head complete with horns.  It's an excellent figure of Satan.  If you have a chance to see it up front & personal it's quite a striking sight.  The pattern is repeated all the way across, but gets less noticable as you go to the left.  It's best right under the pulpit.  Is that an unintended message or what?!

    One pundit commented that now at least they'll be transparent!
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    « Reply #1 on: December 02, 2011, 08:28:03 AM »
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  • Thorn, I found what you have described on Google images (crystal cathedral pulpit).  It does not trequire a streatch of the imagination to see the Baphomet-looking images in the marble.


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    « Reply #2 on: December 02, 2011, 08:53:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Thorn, I found what you have described on Google images (crystal cathedral pulpit).  It does not trequire a streatch of the imagination to see the Baphomet-looking images in the marble.


    And how did the devil manage to get them in there?
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    « Reply #3 on: December 02, 2011, 09:16:03 AM »
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  • Pax, there is a technique of marble cutting - I'm wracking my brain to recall the term-it's an ancient technique for creating patterns.

    At St. Matthew's Cathedral in DC where we were married the technique is also used, but it looks like the Shroud of Turin.  I tried to find some examples of images without luck so far.



     

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    « Reply #4 on: December 02, 2011, 09:32:38 AM »
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  • FWIW

    Holy Name Cathedral demonic Artwork

    Michael A. Calace researched subliminal imagery in the devil's battle against the Church



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    « Reply #5 on: December 02, 2011, 09:37:41 AM »
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  • As a church the building is really, really weird and completely secular. I'm a little bit familiar with it because years ago I used to travel alot and would often be in a hotel on a Sunday morning. I used to watch Schuller because everything about him was so corny and superficial alongside the traditional Catholic faith.

    BTW: One morning I was surprised to hear him say that his guest speaker was Abp. Sheen! Sheen came on in his full Catholic bishop's gear (red cape and all) and preached to the positive thinking protestants what seemed to be a perfectly orthodox Catholic sermon on the Cross. You probably can find it somewhere on the internet. Schuller mentioned that he had always been a fan of Sheen (!), and in the news reports about his group's bankruptcy I saw a photo of a statue of Sheen he had put into the church.

    In any event the building is about as "Catholic" as an airport or a mall, and I think there is even an arrangement where a wall can be opened up that allows people to stay in their cars as at a drive in. and watch the service from there. If the Novus Ordo still had confessions, they could add drive thru confessions, which we used to joke about as kids. "Stop and tell or go to hell!" (if the NO believed in hell!).

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    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2011, 10:28:02 AM »
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  • Many years ago, I attended a Latin Mass in Garden Grove, and my
    Protestant Grandmother came with me.  On the way back, she wanted
    to stop and tour the Crystal Cathedral.  They had guided tours.
    The guide pointed out a bush that was called the Crown of Thorne
    Bush, the same type of bush tha wast made into the Crown of Thornes
    on our Lord's Head on his way to Calvery.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 02, 2011, 12:14:52 PM »
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  • Thanks, Elizabeth, for the further information.  Interesting!  I always thought it was just coincidence about the veins, but what a coincidence!  And the most prominent ram's head right under the pulpit to me spoke volumes.
    Pax, you don't believe that the devil has power?!

    There are many other, mostly New Age, things about the Crystal Cathedral.  If you walk around outside on the left & to the back, there's a round tower.  When you walk in, there in the center on a pedestal is a huge crystal.  I think the tower is called a Meditation Chapel, but it's been years since I saw this so I may be wrong.  Then outside their school there is a statue.  Of Christ with the little children?  No, if I remember it's of Mary Magdeline!  I love Mary Magdeline but I thought one of Christ - suffer the little children..... would be more apropos in front of a school.  It just struck me as odd.  
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    « Reply #8 on: December 02, 2011, 12:37:05 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    Thorn, I found what you have described on Google images (crystal cathedral pulpit).  It does not trequire a streatch of the imagination to see the Baphomet-looking images in the marble.


    I couldn't get a large picture on Google, but I think I found what your describing. It's rather blatant if you ask me. From what I can make out, there are actually 6 of those images all across the marble wall. It may have been a coincidence if the marble just so happened to have turned out that way while they were installing it, but to have the exact same pattern show up 6 times?? What kind of designer would ignore a coincidental yet consistent pattern like that?!
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    « Reply #9 on: December 02, 2011, 12:42:03 PM »
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  • Quote from: Thorn

    I don't know if you'll be able to make it out in pictures, but look on the right in pictures of the inside of the Cathedral, right under the pulpit on the veined pink marble.  There you will see in the veins a very good 'picture' of a ram's head complete with horns.  It's an excellent figure of Satan.


    I should correct you. That's a goat like head, not a ram. I missed it at first because I was looking for a spiral pattern. lol

    Ram's horns spiral. Goat horns grow upward.
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    « Reply #10 on: December 02, 2011, 12:45:07 PM »
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  • Quote from: Elizabeth
    FWIW

    Holy Name Cathedral demonic Artwork

    Michael A. Calace researched subliminal imagery in the devil's battle against the Church



    He missed the oh so obvious bull's head at the top of the slab completely.

    At first glance the pattern appears to be an abyss. How about that?
    "Louvada Siesa O' Sanctisimo Sacramento!"~warcry of the Amakusa/Shimabara rebels

    "We must risk something for God!"~Hernan Cortes


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    « Reply #11 on: December 02, 2011, 12:53:32 PM »
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  • Goat's head - so much the better!  You know - sheep & the goats?!

    btw, when I first saw this years ago, I sent a picture and information to National Enquirer and other such papers.  I thought that since everyone was seeing the faces of Jesus & Mary all over the place and getting money for it, they'd be interested in seeing this.  Wrong.  They wouldn't touch it.  It's OK to chuckle over Catholics seeing things but leave 'Rev.' Schuller alone.  He's untouchable.
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    « Reply #12 on: December 03, 2011, 02:33:58 AM »
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  • What scares me more than the blatantly demonic imagery in so many Novus Ordo churches are all the pathetically blind Catholics or pseudo-Catholics who see absolutely nothing amiss.  That is what this is really all about -- the devil is mocking these lukewarm souls right to their faces, almost challenging them.  But they probably don't even believe in the devil, many of them.

    In my smallish town, near City Hall, they put up openly Satanic sculptures, including one of a red female demon with fiery breasts.  I'll put up pictures soon.  I wonder what the worldly passers-by think this is suppsed to mean; how can they even justify it with any excuse?  There is NOTHING else this sculpture can be but a demon.  Right next to it, they put up a giant dragon, a sculpture entitled creepily "Imagine."  Then there is an Aztec bird goddess dressed like Queen Victoria holding a fish in her hands...  It's all a boast of the devil, he's rubbing it right in peoples' faces that he is taking them to hell.
     
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    « Reply #13 on: December 03, 2011, 02:37:42 AM »
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  • Oh good, there's a pic online --



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    « Reply #14 on: December 03, 2011, 02:43:01 AM »
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  • I must say, seeing this thing outlined against the placid blue skies of Southern California is a peerlessly eerie sensation.  If I saw this in a dream, I'd wake up screaming.  But it's real.  
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