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Traditional Catholic Faith => Crisis in the Church => Topic started by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 24, 2017, 11:04:25 PM

Title: The Counter Church of Heretics
Post by: Viva Cristo Rey on August 24, 2017, 11:04:25 PM
"Sources in Rome told LifeSite last week that liberal prelates inside the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith were overheard discussing a plan ascribed to the Pope to do away with Pope Benedict’s famous docuмent that gave priests freedom to offer the ancient rite of the Mass. "

"Vatican II is irreversible" per counter - church of satan. 


Title: Re: The Counter Church of Heretics
Post by: graceseeker on August 25, 2017, 01:02:47 PM
"Sources in Rome told LifeSite last week that liberal prelates inside the Congregation for the Doctrine of Faith were overheard discussing a plan ascribed to the Pope to do away with Pope Benedict’s famous docuмent that gave priests freedom to offer the ancient rite of the Mass. "

"Vatican II is irreversible" per counter - church of satan.
the Church is gone... .might as well face it.
But Jesus (I believe) is not going to tolerate this situation much longer. I believe it will cause Him to return to Earth. 
I hope all the fake christians make up their mind to not be so fake anymore
Title: Re: The Counter Church of Heretics
Post by: DZ PLEASE on August 25, 2017, 01:21:00 PM
the Church is gone... .might as well face it.

   Uhh, with all due to YOU and NOT what you said, that's heresy miss/ma'am

But Jesus (I believe) is not going to tolerate this situation much longer.

   According to your prior line, He "tolerated" the Gates of Hell prevailing, which would be Him "tolerating" Himself i.e. God lying.

 I believe it will cause Him to return to Earth.

   One thing at a time...

I hope all the fake christians make up their mind to not be so fake anymore

  i.e. Convert to the one true faith, namely, expressly and solely the CATHOLIC faith which, by implication you just declared dead.
Title: Re: The Counter Church of Heretics
Post by: Pax Vobis on August 25, 2017, 05:03:06 PM
We Traditional Catholics are in a much, much better situation now than in the 70s, 80s, 90s and early 2000s.  Why?  Because in the first 40 yrs after V2, we made the argument that we must stick with tradition and the True Mass because we had doubts about the novelities and liturgical sacrileges of new-Rome.  Our argument was based on logic, yes, but it was not 100% defendable.  We were following our conscience and prior examples of the saints in similar situations, but still, we did not have a concrete defense for rejecting new Rome.  

All that changed with Benedict's "motu proprio" in 2007.  In this legal docuмent, he settled the matter that we had all wondered about for 40 yrs - Did Paul VI overrule Quo Primum?  Benedict said emphatically "Quo Primum was not abrogated".  Therefore Quo Primum is law!  Therefore the entire Traditionalist movement was vindicated as operating legally within the laws of the Church!  Therefore, not only are we ALLOWED to say/attend the True Mass, a often overlooked part of this law is that we are all COMMANDED to ONLY say/attend the True mass and it's accompanying rites.

Therefore, as it is law today, any catholic is OBLIGED UNDER PAIN OF SIN to only attend the True Mass and if they do not, and attend any other form of liturgy (which liturgies are unlawful), they sin against Quo Primum, which is disobedience to the pope.  

It's great to be a traditional catholic nowadays!
Title: Re: The Counter Church of Heretics
Post by: DZ PLEASE on August 25, 2017, 05:12:01 PM
the Church is gone... .might as well face it.
But Jesus (I believe) is not going to tolerate this situation much longer. I believe it will cause Him to return to Earth.
I hope all the fake christians make up their mind to not be so fake anymore
Apologies for thinking you a girl. My bad.