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Trinity · « **Reply #1 on:** June 28, 2007, 01:17:50 PM »

Have you any comments to make on this, Stephanos? I take it this was done by a traditional priest, a sedevacantist.

Stephanos · « **Reply #2 on:** June 28, 2007, 01:41:32 PM »

Quote from: Trinity

Have you any comments to make on this, Stephanos? I take it this was done by a traditional priest, a sedevacantist.

Hello Trinity.

Father Berry was a traditional priest and his writing was done long before the things he predicted would come to pass. By the way, at that time this writing of his was approved by the Holy Office. Later Father Kramer, just before the 1958 conclave, showed how it was just about to come to pass. Then it did. The comments apart from scripture quotes that Father Berry is commenting on and apart from Father Berry's writing (in " ") is from a number of sources including those you would refer to as 'sedevacantist'. Personally, I reject the terminology of 'sedevacantist' as smacking of a cultic implication. The Papal throne is always vacant between the death of a validly and licitly elected Pope and the election of the next. The election of a validly and licitly elected Pope, since the death of Pope Gregory XVII in 1989 hasn't happened yet. So the throne is vacant now.

Stephanos · « **Reply #3 on:** June 28, 2007, 02:01:04 PM »

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Stephanos · « **Reply #6 on:** June 29, 2007, 07:12:17 AM »

It is clear that ʝʊdɛօ-Fɾҽҽmαsσɳɾყ was the means for the Antichrist replacement of the Mass.

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24. Maurice Pinay, The Plot Against the Church, p. 15.

BACK TO THE ROMAN MASS

For The Plot Against the Church see:

http://www.catholicvoice.co.uk/pinay/

Trinity · « **Reply #7 on:** June 29, 2007, 08:20:35 AM »

It took me awhile to read all this. I wonder how many people know about the offertory being тαℓмυdic. I sure didn't. I have heard that they changed the wording of the consecration of the bishops, ordination of the priests and the eucharist, but I have never seen/heard the before and after of any of them.

Stephanos · « **Reply #8 on:** June 29, 2007, 03:33:26 PM »

Stephanos · « **Reply #9 on:** June 29, 2007, 03:51:49 PM »

A List of Masons in The Hierarchy of the Catholic Church

The following is a list of Masons reprinted with some updates from the Bulletin de l'Occident Chrétien Nr.12, July, 1976, (Directeur Pierre Fautrad a Fye - 72490 Bourg Le Roi.) All of the men on this list, if they in fact be Masons, are excommunicated by Canon Law 2338. Each man's name is followed by his position, if known; the date he was initiated into Masonry, his code #; and his code name, if known.

1.   Albondi, Alberto. Bishop of Livorno, (Leghorn). Initiated 8-5-58; I.D. # 7-2431.

2.   Abrech, Pio. In the Sacred Congregation Bishops. 11-27-67; # 63-143.

3.   Acquaviva, Sabino. Professor of Religion at the University of Padova, (Padua). 12-3-69; # 275-69.

4.   Alessandro, Father Gottardi. (Addressed as Doctor in Masonic meetings.) President of Fratelli Maristi. 6-14-59.

5.   Angelini Fiorenzo. Bishop of Messenel Greece. 10-14-57; # 14-005.

6.   Argentieri, Benedetto. Patriarch to the Holy See. 3-11-70; # 298-A.

7.   Bea, Augustin. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John XXIII and Pope Paul VI.

8.   Baggio, Sebastiano. Cardinal. Prefect of the Sacred Congregation of Bishops. (This is a crucial Congregation since it appoints new Bishops.) Secretary of State under Pope John Paul II from 1989 to 1992. 8-14-57; # 85-1640. Masonic code name "SEBA." He controls consecration of Bishops.

9.   Balboni, Dante. Assistant to the Vatican Pontifical . Commission for Biblical Studies. 7-23-68; # 79-14 "BALDA."

10.   Baldassarri Salvatore. Bishop of Ravenna, Italy. 2-19-58; # 4315-19. "BALSA."

11.   Balducci, Ernesto. Religious sculpture artist. 5-16-66; # 1452-3.

12.   Basadonna, Ernesto. Prelate of Milan, 9-14-63; # 9-243. "BASE."

13.   Batelli, Guilio. Lay member of many scientific academies. 8-24-59; # 29-A. "GIBA."

14.   Bedeschi, Lorenzo. 2-19-59; # 24-041. "BELO."

15.   Belloli, Luigi. Rector of Seminar; Lombardy, Ita- ly. 4-6-58; # 22-04. "BELLU."

16.   Belluchi, Cleto. Coadjutor Bishop of Fermo, Italy. 6-4-68; # 12-217.

17.   Bettazzi, Luigi. Bishop of Ivera, Italy. 5-11-66; # 1347-45. "LUBE."

18.   Bianchi, Ciovanni. 10-23-69; # 2215-11. "BIGI."

19.   Biffi, Franco, Msgr. Rector of Church of St. John Lateran Pontifical University. He is head of this University and controls what is being taught. He heard confessions of Pope Paul VI. 8-15-59. "BIFRA."

20.   Bicarella, Mario. Prelate of Vicenza, Italy. 9-23-64; # 21-014. "BIMA."

21.   Bonicelli, Gaetano. Bishop of Albano, Italy. 5-12-59; # 63-1428, "BOGA."

22.   Boretti, Giancarlo. 3-21-65; # 0-241. "BORGI."

23.   Bovone, Alberto. Substitute Secretary of the Sacred Office. 3-30-67; # 254-3. "ALBO."

24.   Brini, Mario. Archbishop. Secretary of Chinese, Oriental, and Pagans. Member of Pontifical Commission to Russia. Has control of rewriting Canon Law. 7-7-68; # 15670. "MABRI."

25.   Bugnini, Annibale. Archbishop.Wrote Novus Ordo Mass. Envoy to Iran, 4-23-63; # 1365-75. "BUAN."

26.   Buro, Michele. Bishop. Prelate of Pontifical Commission to Latin America, 3-21-69; # 140-2. "BUMI."

27.   Cacciavillan, Agostino. Secretariat of State. 11-6-60; # 13-154.

28.   Cameli, Umberto. Director in Office of the Ecclesiastical Affairs of Italy in regard to education in Catholic doctrine. 11-17-60; # 9-1436.

29.   Caprile, Giovanni. Director of Catholic Civil Affairs. 9-5-57; # 21-014. "GICA."

30.   Caputo, Giuseppe. 11-15-71; # 6125-63. "GICAP."

31.   Casaroli, Agostino. Cardinal. Secretary of State (next to Pope) under Pope John Paul II since July 1, 1979 until retired in 1989. 9-28-57; # 41-076. "CASA."

32.   Cerruti, Flaminio. Chief of the Office of the University of Congregation Studies. 4-2-60; # 76-2154. "CEFLA."

33.   Ciarrocchi, Mario. Bishop. 8-23-62; # 123-A. "CIMA."

34.   Chiavacci, Enrico. Professor of Moral Theology, University of Florence, Italy. 7-2-70; # 121-34. "CHIE."

35.   Conte, Carmelo. 9-16-67; # 43-096. "CONCA."

36.   Csele, Alessandro. 3-25-60; # 1354-09. "ALCSE."

37.   Dadagio, Luigi. Papal Nuncio to Spain. Archbishop of Lero. 9-8-67. # 43-B. "LUDA."

38.   D'Antonio, Enzio. Archbishop of Trivento. 6-21-69; # 214-53.

39.   De Bous, Donate. Bishop. 6-24-68; # 321-02. "DEBO."

40.   Del Gallo Reoccagiovane, Luigi. Bishop.

41.   Del Monte, Aldo. Bishop of Novara, Italy. 8-25-69; # 32-012. "ADELMO."

42.   Faltin, Danielle. 6-4-70; # 9-1207. "FADA."

43.   Ferraioli, Giuseppe. Member of Sacred Congregation for Public Affairs. 11-24-69; # 004-125. "GIFE."

44.   Franzoni, Giovanni. 3-2-65; # 2246-47. "FRAGI."

45.   Gemmiti, Vito. Sacred Congregation of Bishops. 3-25-68; # 54-13. "VIGE."

46.   Girardi, Giulio. 9-8-70; # 1471-52. "GIG."

47.   Fiorenzo, Angelinin. Bishop. Title of Commendator of the Holy Spirit. Vicar General of Roman Hospitals. Controls hospital trust funds. Consecrated Bishop 7-19-56; joined Masons 10-14-57.

48.   Giustetti, Massimo. 4-12-70; # 13-065. "GIUMA."

49.   Gottardi, Alessandro. Procurator and Postulator General of Fratelli Maristi. Archbishop of Trent. 6-13-59; # 2437-14. "ALGO."

50.   Gozzini, Mario. 5-14-70; # 31-11. "MAGO."

51.   Grazinai, Carlo. Rector of the Vatican Minor Seminary. 7-23-61; # 156-3. "GRACA."

52.   Gregagnin, Antonio. Tribune of First Causes for Beatification. 10-19-67; # 8-45. "GREA."

53.   Gualdrini, Franco. Rector of Capranica. 5-22-61; # 21-352. "GUFRA."

54.   Ilari, Annibale. Abbot. 3-16-69; # 43-86. "ILA."

55.   Laghi, Pio. Nunzio, Apostolic Delegate to Argentina, and then to U.S.A. until 1995. 8-24-69; # 0-538. "LAPI."

56.   Lajolo, Giovanni. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 7-27-70; # 21-1397. "LAGI."

57.   Lanzoni, Angelo. Chief of the Office of Secretary of State. 9-24-56; # 6-324. "LANA."

58.   Levi, Virgillio (alias Levine), Monsignor. Assistant Director of Official Vatican Newspaper, L'Osservatore Romano. Manages Vatican Radio Station. 7-4-58; # 241-3. "VILE."

59.   Lozza, Lino. Chancellor of Rome Academy of St. Thomas Aquinas of Catholic Religion. 7-23-69; # 12-768. "LOLI."

60.   Lienart, Achille. Cardinal. Grand Master top Mason. Bishop of Lille, France. Recruits Masons. Was leader of progressive forces at Vatican II Council.

61.   Macchi, Pasquale. Cardinal. Pope Paul's Prelate of Honour and Private Secretary until he was excommunicated for heresy by Pope Paul VI. Was reinstated by Secretary of State Jean Villot, and made a Cardinal. 4-23-58; # 5463-2. "MAPA."

62.   Mancini, Italo. Director of Sua Santita. 3-18-68; # l551-142. "MANI."

63.   Manfrini, Enrico. Lay Consultor of Pontifical Commission of Sacred Art. 2-21-68; # 968-c. "MANE."

64.   Marchisano, Francesco. Prelate Honour of the Pope. Secretary Congregation for Seminaries and Universities of Studies. 2-4-61; 4536-3. "FRAMA."

65.   Marcinkus, Paul. American bodyguard for imposter Pope. From Cicero, Illinois. Stands 6'4". President for Institute for Training Religious. 8-21-67; # 43-649. Called "GORILLA." Code name "MARPA."

66.   Marsili, Saltvatore. Abbot of Order of St. Benedict of Finalpia near Modena, Italy. 7-2-63; # 1278-49. "SALMA."

67.   Mazza, Antonio. Titular Bishop of Velia. Secretary General of Holy Year, 1975. 4-14-71. # 054-329. "MANU."

68.   Mazzi, Venerio. Member of Council of Public Affairs of the Church. 10-13-66; # 052-s. "MAVE."

69.   Mazzoni, Pier Luigi. Congregation of Bishops. 9-14-59; # 59-2. "PILUM."

70.   Maverna, Luigi. Bishop of Chiavari, Genoa, Italy. Assistant General of Italian Catholic Azione. 6-3-68; # 441-c. "LUMA."

71.   Mensa, Albino. Archbishop of Vercelli, Piedmont, Italy. 7-23-59; # 53-23. " MENA."

72.   Messina, Carlo. 3-21-70; # 21-045. "MECA."

73.   Messina, Zanon (Adele). 9-25-68; # 045-329. " AMEZ."

74.   Monduzzi, Dino. Regent to the Prefect of the Pontifical House. 3-11 -67; # 190-2. "MONDI."

75.   Mongillo, Daimazio. Professor of Dominican Moral Theology, Holy Angels Institute of Roma. 2-16-69; # 2145-22. "MONDA."

76.   Morgante, Marcello. Bishop of Ascoli Piceno in East Italy. 7-22-55; # 78-3601. MORMA."

77.   Natalini, Teuzo. Vice President of the Archives of Secretariat of the Vatican. 6-17-67; # 21-44d. "NATE."

78.   Nigro, Carmelo. Rector of the Seminary, Pontifical of Major Studies. 12-21-70; # 23-154. "CARNI."

79.   Noe, Virgillio. Head of the Sacred Congregation of Divine Worship. He and Bugnini paid 5 Protestant Ministers and one Jєωιѕн Rabbi to create the Novus Ordo Mass. 4-3-61; # 43652-21. "VINO."

80.   Palestra, Vittorie. He is Legal Council of the Sacred Rota of the Vatican State. 5-6-43; # 1965. "PAVI."

81.   Pappalardo, Salvatore. Cardinal. Archbishop of Palermo, Sicily. 4-15-68; # 234-07. "SALPA."

82.   Pasqualetti, Gottardo. 6-15-60; # 4-231. "COPA."

83.   Pasquinelli, Dante. Council of Nunzio of Madrid. 1-12-69; # 32-124. "PADA."

84.   Pellegrino, Michele. Cardinal. Called "Protector of the Church", Archbishop of Torino (Turin, where the Holy Shroud of Jesus is kept). 5-2-60; # 352-36. "PALMI."

85.   Piana, Giannino. 9-2-70; # 314-52. "GIPI."

86.   Pimpo, Mario. Vicar of Office of General Affairs. 3-15-70; # 793-43. "PIMA."

87.   Pinto, Monsignor Pio Vito. Attaché of Secretary of State and Notare of Second Section of Supreme Tribunal and of Apostolic Signature. 4-2-70; # 3317-42. "PIPIVI."

88.   Poletti, Ugo. Cardinal. Vicar of S.S. Diocese of Rome. Controls clergy of Rome since 3-6-73. Member of Sacred Congregation of Sacraments and of Divine Worship. He is President of Pontifical Works and Preservation of the Faith. Also President of the Liturgical Academy. 2-17-69; # 32-1425. "UPO."

89.   Rizzi, Monsignor Mario. Sacred Congregation of Oriental Rites. Listed as "Prelate Bishop of Honour of the Holy Father, the Pope." Works under top-Mason Mario Brini in manipulating Canon Law. 9-16-69; # 43-179. "MARI," "MONMARI."

90.   Romita, Florenzo. Was in Sacred Congregation of Clergy. 4-21-56; # 52-142. "FIRO."

91.   Rogger, Igine. Officer in S.S. (Diocese of Rome). 4-16-68; # 319-13. "IGRO."

92.   Rossano, Pietro. Sacred Congregation of Non-Christian Religions. 2-12-68; # 3421-a. "PIRO."

93.   Rovela, Virgillio. 6-12-64; # 32-14. "ROVI."

94.   Sabbatani, Aurelio. Archbishop of Giustiniana (Giusgno, Milar Province, Italy). First Secretary Supreme Apostolic Segnatura. 6-22-69; # 87-43. "ASA"

95.   Sacchetti, Guilio. Delegate of Governors - Marchese. 8-23-59; # 0991-b. "SAGI."

96.   Salerno, Francesco. Bishop. Prefect Atti. Eccles. 5-4-62; # 0437-1. "SAFRA"

97.   Santangelo, Franceso. Substitute General of Defense Legal Counsel. 11-12-70; # 32-096. "FRASA."

98.   Santini, Pietro. Vice Official of the Vicar. 8-23-64; # 326-11. "SAPI."

99.   Savorelli, Fernando. 1-14-69; # 004-51. "SAFE."

100.   Savorelli, Renzo. 6-12-65; # 34-692. "RESA."

101.   Scanagatta, Gaetano. Sacred Congregation of the Clergy. Member of Commission of Pomei and Loreto, Italy. 9-23-71; # 42-023. "GASCA."

102.   Schasching, Giovanni. 3-18-65; # 6374-23. "GISCHA," "GESUITA."

103.   Schierano, Mario. Titular Bishop of Acrida (Acri in Cosenza Province, Italy.) Chief Military Chaplain of the Italian Armed Forces. 7-3-59; #14-3641. "MASCHI."

104.   Semproni, Domenico. Tribunal of the Vicarate of the Vatican. 4-16-60; # 00-12. "DOSE."

105.   Sensi, Giuseppe Mario. Titular Archbishop of Sardi (Asia Minor near Smyrna). Papal Nunzio to Portugal. 11-2-67; # 18911-47. "GIMASE."

106.   Sposito, Luigi. Pontifical Commission for the Archives of the Church in Italy. Head Administrator of the Apostolic Seat of the Vatican.

107.   Suenens, Leo. Cardinal. Title: Protector of the Church of St. Peter in Chains, outside Rome. Promotes Protestant Pentecostalism (Charismatics). Destroyed much Church dogma when he worked in 3 Sacred Congregations: 1) Propagation of the Faith; 2) Rites and Ceremonies in the Liturgy; 3) Seminaries. 6-15-67; # 21-64. "LESU."

108.   Trabalzini, Dino. Bishop of Rieti (Reate, Peruga, Italy). Auxiliary Bishop of Southern Rome. 2-6-65; # 61-956. "TRADI."

109.   Travia, Antonio. Titular Archbishop of Termini Imerese. Head of Catholic schools. 9-15-67; # 16-141. "ATRA."

110.   Trocchi, Vittorio. Secretary for Catholic Laity in Consistory of the Vatican State Consultations. 7-12-62; # 3-896. "TROVI."

111.   Tucci, Roberto. Director General of Vatican Radio. 6-21-57; # 42-58. "TURO."

112.   Turoldo, David. 6-9-67; # 191-44. "DATU."

113.   Vale, Georgio. Priest. Official of Rome Diocese. 2-21-71; # 21-328. "VAGI."

114.   Vergari, Piero. Head Protocol Officer of the Vatican Office Segnatura. 12-14-70; # 3241-6. "PIVE."

115.   Villot, Jean. Cardinal. Secretary of State during Pope Paul VI. He is Camerlengo (Treasurer). "JEANNI," "ZURIGO."

116.   Zanini, Lino. Titular Archbishop of Adrianopoli, which is Andrianopolis, Turkey. Apostolic Nuncio. Member of the Revered Fabric of St. Peter's Basilica.

THE FOLLOWING CLERGY WERE EXPOSED AFTER THE ABOVE LIST WAS COMPILED:

1.   Fregi, Francesco Egisto. 2-14-63; # 1435-87.

2.   Tirelli, Sotiro. 5-16-63; # 1257-9. "TIRSO."

3.   Cresti, Osvaldo. 5-22-63; # 1653-6. "CRESO."

4.   Rotardi, Tito. 8-13-63; # 1865-34. "TROTA."

5.   Orbasi, Igino. 9-17-73; # 1326-97. "ORBI."

6.   Drusilla, Italia. 10-12-63; # 1653-2. "'DRUSI "

7.   Ratosi, Tito. 11-22-63; # 1542-74 "TRATO."

8.   Crosta, Sante. 11-17-63; # 1254-65. "CROSTAS.

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #10 on:** June 30, 2007, 03:22:22 AM »

Stephanos,

Nothing bothers me more than quoting a great theologian incorrectly. Rev. Berry's quotes are accurate, but not accurately displayed in context. Fr. Berry, a fine and orthodox theologian in this country, does not intend what you intend him to say and mean.

I own the book "The Church of Christ". He believes that the Catholic Church will always exist, that the Pope will always reign in the chair of Peter, and that the Church will be plainly visible with a validly reigning episcopacy.

I refuted John Lane, a known sedevacantist, with him using the same quotes. Fr. Berry was talking about a false separate church which would make it seem like it was the Catholic Church, not the leaders of the Catholic Church becoming this false church. I cannot believe how intellectually dishonest such an article is and how you are quoting him to say things which was never his intention. His book is EXACT opposite of what you imply, he believes that the Sees of the Catholic Church will exist visibly for all time and filled by valid bishops, not in state of anarchy.

Stephanos · « **Reply #11 on:** June 30, 2007, 09:05:31 AM »

Mike,

Your are repeating yourself and not addressing anything point by point.

Everything there is accurate.

You haven't supported any of your contentions. You have only name called and made groundless accusations. This is typical of Novus Ordinarians when they are faced with the truth.

Father Berry specifically said that Rome (the Vatican) would be apostate. This is exactly Father Culleton's reading of Father Berry. Father Kramer just before the 1958 conclave read Father Berry the exact same way.

Mike, I am afraid you are a legend in your own mind, bragging about how you did such and such, supposedly, but offering no specifics on the subject at hand.

John Steven · « **Reply #12 on:** June 30, 2007, 09:44:40 AM »

Stephanos,

In the few days you have been here the majority of your posts are long copy & paste articles that no one is going to take the time to read through. A more fruitful discussion will be had if you posted one article as a new topic and then offered your comments on it and invited others to do so.

You've also managed to refer to JP II as an anti-pope and refer to a true anti-pope Pope Gregory XVII as someone Catholics should take seriously. It has been my experience that people such as yourself generally make message boards like this a very unpleasant place to be and invite like minded people to bombard it with similar posts such as yours. I hope this does not become the case and does not have to be if you turn down the rhetoric just a notch. There are other sedevacantists here that seem to coexist quite well by doing just that.

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #13 on:** June 30, 2007, 12:58:24 PM »

Quote from: Stephanos

Mike,

Your are repeating yourself and not addressing anything point by point.

Everything there is accurate.

You haven't supported any of your contentions. You have only name called and made groundless accusations. This is typical of Novus Ordinarians when they are faced with the truth.

Have I called you a name? No, I haven't, that proves me you are not thinking logically and you can't argue rationally so you resort to name-calling. You said I was a legend in my own mind. That's name-calling so can't think logically. When confronted you resort to name calling because you think you are justified.

I've already been called a Novus Ordinarian and a legend in my own mind. Great job on being logical and consistent :applause:

I contended I quoted his book before when I had it with me and refuted such proof-texting of abusing his work. Yes, I have done so previously. Since you think that's what the words mean, why don't you find where he specifically states that Rome in Her hierarchy will apostatize. Here's a hint: it doesn't exist.

The words you quoted were for a parallel church which would seek to overthrow and look like the real Church. You get the book and look up how he sees the hierarchy in the Church always present. You are abusing the man's works, and any priest who does so should be in the confessional. If you didn't know this you cannot be held accountable. But now that you know you have an obligation to get the book and read it yourself. It doesn't support your assertions at all.

I don't have time to get a copy of the book and show you how ridiculous this proof-texting is by a wonderful priest who doesn't support the conclusions drawn. Do you even own the book in question or are you copy and pasting it from another website? Do you even know who Fr. Sylvester Berry was without looking him up?

Someone like yourself needs to do some more logical analysis. You should look in the mirror before name calling, because right now I think you're disrespectful at best, andI won't say what you are at worst, but you don't know what you are talking about.

Why don't you be a man and argue rationally, get his book, and stop stealing pages off the internet. You didn't source the page you took that work from, which is legally stealing if you weren't aware. Why don't we argue the principles and go from there. You get his book and we'll go from there ok Mr. IthinkImatougguybehindacomputerscreen who doesn't have a clue and is a mindless drone (see, that's name calling and I hate doing it so let's stop and be men, I only said that for effect so you understand that I hate name calling).

MichaelSolimanto · « **Reply #14 on:** June 30, 2007, 01:15:05 PM »

I'll give this 5 minutes tops to show the conclusions drawn by these texts is not according to Fr. Berry's intentions. I've read the book and recommended it to others. Teo will attest to this on this board. The quotes are accurate, the interpretation by liars is not.

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"The prophecies of the Apocalypse show that Satan will imitate the Church of Christ to deceive mankind; he will set up a church of Satan in opposition to the Church of Christ

"Antichrist will assume the role of Messias; his prophet will act the part of Pope, and there will be imitations of the Sacraments of the Church. There will also be lying wonders in imitation of the miracles wrought in the Church. (p.119)

1st It says Satan will imitate the Church, showing a separate reality distinct from the Church.
2nd The Anti-Christ will become the Messias. No one is assuming to be the Messias. There is no prophet for him by the reigning Pope. Benedict XVI is not awaiting the Anti-Christ as the Messias. Any conclusions to prove that need facts, otherwise there are calumnious remarks if implied that Fr. Berry is supporting the current sedevacantist premise in today's Church by his own words.

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"And, there seems to be no reason why a false Church might not become universal, even more universal than the true one, at least for a time." (p.155)

Again, it is clear he's talking about a separate Church distinct from the Catholic Church that will be set-up by the Anti-Christ and his false prophet.

"16. The followers of Antichrist will be marked with a character in imitation of the sign that St. John saw upon the foreheads of the servants of God. ...Satan will assume the part of God the Father; Antichrist will be honored as Saviour, and his prophet will usurp the role of Pope. Their ceremonies will counterfeit the Sacraments and their works of magic be heralded as miracles...."

None of this has happened so it's happenstance. Prove to me that the current Vatican sees Satan as the Father and where the Anti-Christ is. I'll await a rational answer if one comes with proof.

I want any proof that any of those things is what Fr. Berry mentions is happening today in the Vatican with absolute proof and not hear-say. Without it there is calumny, a very grievious sin.