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Offline gladius_veritatis

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The Bigger Scandal: Catholic Church Funding of ACORN
« on: September 25, 2009, 07:59:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Uriel
    Papal infallibility...how can ANYONE honestly believe this nonsense after all the crap connected to the Catholic Church, the Popes and their henchmen over the years?


    What makes you think anyone will listen to your nonsense when you continue to demonstrate (to trads of every stripe) that you have little to no faith?

    Go buy and read Apologetics, and keep your faux "pearls of wisdom" to yourself.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    The Bigger Scandal: Catholic Church Funding of ACORN
    « Reply #1 on: September 25, 2009, 08:01:00 PM »
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  • Dogmatic Definition of 1870

    Vatican Council, Sess. IV, Const. de Ecclesiâ Christi, c. iv, holds:

        We teach and define that it is a dogma Divinely revealed that the Roman pontiff when he speaks ex cathedra, that is when in discharge of the office of pastor and doctor of all Christians, by virtue of his supreme Apostolic authority, he defines a doctrine regarding faith or morals to be held by the universal Church, by the Divine assistance promised to him in Blessed Peter, is possessed of that infallibility with which the Divine Redeemer willed that his Church should be endowed in defining doctrine regarding faith or morals, and that therefore such definitions of the Roman pontiff are of themselves and not from the consent of the Church irreformable.

    Solemn definitions promulgated by ecuмenical councils of the Catholic Church and affirmed by the Pope, such as the dogmatic definition quoted above, are themselves considered infallible.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #2 on: September 25, 2009, 09:05:07 PM »
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    Solemn definitions promulgated by ecuмenical councils were lead by MEN and not all were guided by the Holy Spirit. The  doctrine of infallibility is one example of man making a judgement call ,not guided by the Holy Spirit, as a means of securing power in an uncertain and chaotic period.

    Dose the Holy Spirit guide men...yes! But to make such a claim as the doctrine of infallibility is just BS. Men are mortal, and no matter who they are, saint or Pope, they sin and make errors in morals and religious dogama. Look at the last past few Popes if not believing me!!!  :idea:


    This is scandalous.
    Pray for me, always.

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    The Bigger Scandal: Catholic Church Funding of ACORN
    « Reply #3 on: September 25, 2009, 09:23:47 PM »
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    Here yet is another example of the modern Church, includes the SSPX, being part of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and its evil agenda. Papal infallibility...how can ANYONE honestly believe this nonsense after all the crap connected to the Catholic Church, the Popes and their henchmen over the years?

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14998#When:23:43:11Z


    Yeah, it's liberation theology, and your point is?  So what?  Modern heretics at work.  No longer content to preach the Gospel of our Lord Jesus Christ, that no one comes to God the Father except through His One and Only Son, Jesus Christ, these heretics have intended their own "gospel" based upon the "findings" of higher Biblical criticism, which allows one to substitute any reading of the New Testament that one wants.  Modern Catholic Theology = Agnosticism + Any crap that one wants.

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    « Reply #4 on: September 26, 2009, 12:09:50 AM »
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  • Old 'Catholic' theology + Lying YouTube videos = Any drivel that Uriel wants.


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    « Reply #5 on: September 26, 2009, 12:11:05 AM »
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  • Quote from: Uriel
    Here yet is another example of the modern Church, includes the SSPX, being part of the nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr and its evil agenda. Papal infallibility...how can ANYONE honestly believe this nonsense after all the crap connected to the Catholic Church, the Popes and their henchmen over the years?

    http://canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/14998#When:23:43:11Z


    What is ACORN? Does it have anything to do with Faith or Morals? If not, then you've just pulled a puerile Protestant attempt at discrediting the intelligence of Catholics (with of course the obligatory "all the crap connected to the Church and the popes, etc").

    I want to have a list of books that you have read about the history of the Catholic Church and the Popes. Have you read the highly acclaimed "History of the Popes" by Dr. Ludwig Pastor? If you have not, and do not have access to a copy of the multi-volume (I think that there are more than 30 volumes, although I am not sure) series, which is most likely the case, as they are rather rare tomes nowadays, I can give you a link to them all available for free to read online. You evidently have only an elementary understanding of the Catholic Faith as you commonly use textbook examples of Protestant objections to the Catholic Religion based on bad historical analysis, flawed Biblical exegesis, or just plain bad will or idiocy.

    I am not claiming to be learned in these matters, but I know enough to know that most of your claims are just Protestant rubbish that has been refuted a thousand times (and will continue to be for ten times a thousand more times if most Protestants are like the ones that I have met online).

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    One does not need to be a traditional Catholic or even Catholic to see real evils in the world. Some of the better saints never believed in the total Catholic dogma and look were they are now.


    Yes you do (need to be Catholic). Does the average atheist on Prison Planet or God-Like Productions truly understand the major conspiracy in play? No, they do not. They see the pawns moving, but they can't see the one who is moving them (Satan). And if they don't, they'll just end up in checkmate like all the masses that they fancy themselves to be above. This is exactly where you are Uriel. You've been to wrapped up in conspiracy theories that you've allowed yourself to believe in the most idiotic propositions put forth by man. You'll end up raving on about some "Black Pope" or the Jesuits or about Ancient Astronauts/Demons, etc (Jesus Christ lived for 33 years! What do you know, He must have been a Freemason!). In the end, everything becomes a conspiracy and you'll lose all trust in anything and everything. If you end up like that, you are just about as useless as the average citizen.

    +PAX IN MARIA+

    Nguyen Thuy Dan



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    « Reply #6 on: September 26, 2009, 01:03:51 AM »
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  • And if you deny that there ARE INDEED SOME cօռspιʀαcιҽs playing out as we speak (such as the Free Masonic take over of the Vatican and Church infrastructure), then you will be just as dead on the other end of the spectrum.

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    « Reply #7 on: September 26, 2009, 01:25:37 AM »
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  • Vladimir is not denying that the enemies of the Church are trying to destroy Her.

    He is urging Uriel to stop taking the lazy, Protestant way and to study The History of the Popes.

    He wants her to pray more and not be so concerned with worldly matters, it appears to me.


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    « Reply #8 on: September 26, 2009, 01:58:41 AM »
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  • Quote from: Catholic Martyr
    And if you deny that there ARE INDEED SOME cօռspιʀαcιҽs playing out as we speak (such as the Free Masonic take over of the Vatican and Church infrastructure), then you will be just as dead on the other end of the spectrum.


    On the contrary, I think that Elizabeth summarized my stance well.

    Its one thing to question the established history of controversial events such as the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" or 9/11, etc but it is insanity to believe that there is a conspiracy behind every corner.



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    « Reply #9 on: September 26, 2009, 04:08:14 AM »
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  • Uriel is a she?

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    « Reply #10 on: September 26, 2009, 07:51:47 AM »
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  • Quote from: Uriel
    One does not need to be a traditional Catholic or even Catholic to see real evils in the world.


    Thanks for this completely obvious comment.  How did I know you would not receive what I have told you, here and elsewhere, in a good spirit?

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    Some of the better saints never believed in the total Catholic dogma and look were they are now.


    Where?  This is another "pearl" you should have kept to yourself.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."


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    « Reply #11 on: September 26, 2009, 07:55:15 AM »
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  • Uriel,

    You are knowingly and willingly going out of your way to undermine your dying, if not already-dead, faith.  At the same time, you ignore good advice about how to shore up your leaking vessel.  In the interests of others, please keep the "fruits" of this willfully-destructive process to yourself.
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #12 on: September 26, 2009, 08:56:29 AM »
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  • I think that it is very well established that the modern Catholic Church does support left-wing organizations, which is why I do not donate to my diocese, only to my local parish.

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    « Reply #13 on: September 26, 2009, 10:04:13 AM »
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  • Quote from: Jehanne
    I think that it is very well established that the modern Catholic Church does support left-wing organizations, which is why I do not donate to my diocese, only to my local parish.


    It IS well-established (as ALL here know), as is Uriel's habitual willingness to expose her shaky faith to things that are plainly undermining it.  As you can see from the use of the hand clapping smilies, you have, unwittingly, encouraged her.  To you, in all kindness, I say, "Stop."
    "Fear God, and keep His commandments: for this is all man."

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    « Reply #14 on: September 26, 2009, 02:05:31 PM »
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    Quote from: Jehanne
    I think that it is very well established that the modern Catholic Church does support left-wing organizations, which is why I do not donate to my diocese, only to my local parish.


    It IS well-established (as ALL here know), as is Uriel's habitual willingness to expose her shaky faith to things that are plainly undermining it.  As you can see from the use of the hand clapping smilies, you have, unwittingly, encouraged her.  To you, in all kindness, I say, "Stop."


    The solution is simple:  Give to the SSPX, SSPV, etc.  Recently, I was shocked by the latest SSPX newsletter to find that there are traditional "priests in need."  One Norvus Ordo board that I was on many years ago had a post about a SSPX priest who was homeless and was saying Mass but he had "not had a bath in a long time."  If true, this is terrible.