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Offline SkidRowCatholic

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The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
« on: Yesterday at 12:34:10 PM »
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    • On the Solemnity of Christ the King, the Faithful of the Church at Rome, in order to exercise the right granted to them by Pope Nicholas II, in his Bull, In Nomine Domini, convened in an apostolic assembly to elect the true and legitimate successor of Saint Peter,

    Further details about the results  of this assembly this will be published at SedesApostolica.info, once that site goes on line.

    For all of the reasons above, if there are any who would like to contribute to the expenses of the new Holy Father, considering donating through the PayPal buttons below, to the Charitable Dedicated “Help the Catholic Pope” fund, maintained by “Save Old St. Mary’s Inc.”, the U.S. 501(c)(3) registered private charitable foundation, which will transfer all funds received to the new Catholic pope.

    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/11/24/the-apostolic-election-has-been-held/

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    Offline Ladislaus

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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #1 on: Yesterday at 01:36:18 PM »
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    • No, you're jumping the gun here.  It just said they held an assembly to elect a pope.  Says the results will be published later at some website.  Could be that the decided not to elect anyone at this time.

    If you recall, last time, the simply ended up re-electing Bergoglio ... I guess because he had been invalid due to the non-resignation of Ratzinger, so they effectively believed that they "sanated" his election with this effort.

    I will be curious to see who they elected.  If +Vigano, then I think they might find more supporters than you think.

    As for whether they're full SV (after Pius XII) or just since the death of Ratzinger ... in either case, the See is vacant.
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    Offline SkidRowCatholic

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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #2 on: Yesterday at 01:41:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 01:36:18 PM
    No, you're jumping the gun here.  It just said they held an assembly to elect a pope.  Says the results will be published later at some website.  Could be that the decided not to elect anyone at this time.


    Sounds like they picked one to me...
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    Offline SkidRowCatholic

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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #3 on: Yesterday at 01:42:28 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 01:36:18 PM
    If you recall, last time, the simply ended up re-electing Bergoglio ... I guess because he had been invalid due to the non-resignation of Ratzinger, so they effectively believed that they "sanated" his election with this effort.
    Yeah, for the "good of the Church." ::)
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #4 on: Yesterday at 01:51:50 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 01:36:18 PM
    I will be curious to see who they elected.  If +Vigano, then I think they might find more supporters than you think.
    Well, just like a few weeks ago Bugnolo said he couldn't even get 2 other Romans together in the same room to vote, so I don't know if I would hold my breath on +Vigano.

    All shall be revealed in due time, I predict...

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    Offline JeanBaptistedeCouetus

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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #5 on: Yesterday at 02:31:56 PM »
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    • So they elected a real AntiPope, since we have a Pope already.
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #6 on: Yesterday at 02:32:39 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 01:51:50 PM
    Well, just like a few weeks ago Bugnolo said he couldn't even get 2 other Romans together in the same room to vote, so I don't know if I would hold my breath on +Vigano.

    All shall be revealed in due time, I predict...



    Well, if they elected SOMEBODY, then it could have been +Vigano.  Of course, one small problem is that the electee would have to accept.
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #7 on: Yesterday at 02:34:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 12:34:10 PM
    On the Solemnity of Christ the King, the Faithful of the Church at Rome, in order to exercise the right granted to them by Pope Nicholas II, in his Bull, In Nomine Domini, convened in an apostolic assembly to elect the true and legitimate successor of Saint Peter,

    Further details about the results  of this assembly this will be published at SedesApostolica.info, once that site goes on line.

    For all of the reasons above, if there are any who would like to contribute to the expenses of the new Holy Father, considering donating through the PayPal buttons below, to the Charitable Dedicated “Help the Catholic Pope” fund, maintained by “Save Old St. Mary’s Inc.”, the U.S. 501(c)(3) registered private charitable foundation, which will transfer all funds received to the new Catholic pope.

    https://www.fromrome.info/2025/11/24/the-apostolic-election-has-been-held/

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    I'm glad somebody posted this news! :clown::laugh2::laugh2::clown: 

    Can't wait for the unveiling!
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #8 on: Yesterday at 02:37:58 PM »
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    • So, while I can see maybe one or two show up and vote, I'd have a hard time seeing who would accept the election.

    Unlike with the Pope Michael scenario, he does at least base it in principle on the right of the clergy of Rome to elect a Pope when other means are absent.  We did see quite a few Italian priests going sedevacantist during the Bergoglio era, so perhaps if enough Roman clergy got together, something like that could gain some traction.

    But the bigger problem is that you'd have to exclude even the Traditional Catholics who don't believe the See to be vacant, or the sedeprivationists who believe that it's occupied materially ... and thus you'd never achieve any kind of Universal Acceptance.
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #9 on: Yesterday at 02:45:41 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 02:32:39 PM
    Well, if they elected SOMEBODY, then it could have been +Vigano. 
    Yes, it would be interesting for sure...
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #10 on: Yesterday at 02:47:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: Ladislaus on Yesterday at 02:37:58 PM
    Unlike with the Pope Michael scenario, he does at least base it in principle on the right of the clergy of Rome to elect a Pope when other means are absent.  
    What do you think of the merits of his argument using the Bull In Nomini Domini ?
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #11 on: Yesterday at 02:49:15 PM »
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on Yesterday at 02:31:56 PM
    So they elected a real AntiPope, since we have a Pope already.
    Well, that is a matter of perspective.

    From their viewpoint, "Leo" was not canonically elected - therefore Bobby Prevost is the actual Antipope.

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    Offline JeanBaptistedeCouetus

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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #12 on: Yesterday at 02:51:51 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 02:47:43 PM
    What do you think of the merits of his argument using the Bull In Nomini Domini ?
    Any election claimed today on this basis is almost certainly invalid by traditional Catholic doctrine, not because the text is false, but because the canonical and hierarchical context has changed and was never designed for such extraordinary modern use.
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #13 on: Yesterday at 02:58:36 PM »
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    • Quote from: JeanBaptistedeCouetus on Yesterday at 02:51:51 PM

    Any election claimed today on this basis is almost certainly invalid by traditional Catholic doctrine, not because the text is false, but because the canonical and hierarchical context has changed and was never designed for such extraordinary modern use.
    Please elaborate,

    What "canonical and hiearchical contextual changes" do you refer to?

    "Wherefore, if the perversity of depraved and iniquitous men, so prevail, that a pure, sincere and free election cannot be held in the City, let the Cardinal Bishops with the religious Clerics, and the Catholic laity, though few, obtain the right of power (ius potestatis) to elect the Pontiff of the Apostolic See, where they might judge it to be more fitting. Plainly, after the election has been completed, if there be a bellicose conflict, and/or if the struggle of any kind of men resists by the earnestness of wickedness, such that he, who has been elected, cannot prevail to be enthroned in the Apostolic See according to the custom, nevertheless, let the elect obtain as Pope the authority to rule the Roman Church and to dispose of all Her faculties, which Blessed Gregory, We know, did, before his own consecration."

    How does this not apply to our time or any other past or future?

    I would be careful not to be too sure about the applicability or non-applicability of the text,

    "if anyone shows himself to be a violator of this sentence of Our Holy Decree, and has tried to confound the Roman Church by his presumption, and to raise disturbance against this Statute, let him be damned by perpetual anathema and excommunication, and let him be reputed among “the impious“, who “shall not rise again in judgement” (Psalm 1:5), let him know the wrath of the Omnipotent One against him, and that of the Holy Apostles, Peter and Paul, whose Church he has presumed to fool, let him know a ravaging madness in this life and in the future; “Let his dwelling become deserted, and let there be no one who dwells in his tents” (cf. Psalm 69:26): “Let his sons be orphans, and his wife a widow” (Psalm 108:9), “Let him be shaken completely” (cf. Psalm 108:10) to madness, and “may his sons go about begging, and be cast out of their dwellings” (Psalm 108:10). “May the money-lender ravage all his substance, and may the foreigner lay waste all his labors” (Psalm 108:11); “Let the whole world fight against” (cf. Wisdom 5:21) him, and let all the other elements be against him, and may the merits of all the Saints, at rest, confound him and in this life may they show open vengeance upon him."

    (as far as ecclesiastical curses go, this one is in my top 10 favs)
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    Re: The Bennyvacantists have a new pope.
    « Reply #14 on: Yesterday at 03:01:14 PM »
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    • Quote from: SkidRowCatholic on Yesterday at 02:49:15 PM
    Well, that is a matter of perspective.

    From their viewpoint, "Leo" was not canonically elected - therefore Bobby Prevost is the actual Antipope.
    Yes we are aware of what the Sedevacantist sect believes, in this case, selective sedevacantists.
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