No, you're jumping the gun here. It just said they held an assembly to elect a pope. Says the results will be published later at some website. Could be that the decided not to elect anyone at this time.(https://i.imgur.com/FKZtWmX.png)
If you recall, last time, the simply ended up re-electing Bergoglio ... I guess because he had been invalid due to the non-resignation of Ratzinger, so they effectively believed that they "sanated" his election with this effort.Yeah, for the "good of the Church." ::)
I will be curious to see who they elected. If +Vigano, then I think they might find more supporters than you think.Well, just like a few weeks ago Bugnolo said he couldn't even get 2 other Romans together in the same room to vote, so I don't know if I would hold my breath on +Vigano.
Well, just like a few weeks ago Bugnolo said he couldn't even get 2 other Romans together in the same room to vote, so I don't know if I would hold my breath on +Vigano.
All shall be revealed in due time, I predict...
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Well, if they elected SOMEBODY, then it could have been +Vigano.Yes, it would be interesting for sure...
Unlike with the Pope Michael scenario, he does at least base it in principle on the right of the clergy of Rome to elect a Pope when other means are absent.What do you think of the merits of his argument using the Bull In Nomini Domini (https://www.fromrome.info/2025/07/31/pope-nicholas-iis-bull-in-nomine-domini-papal-version/) ?
So they elected a real AntiPope, since we have a Pope already.Well, that is a matter of perspective.
What do you think of the merits of his argument using the Bull In Nomini Domini (https://www.fromrome.info/2025/07/31/pope-nicholas-iis-bull-in-nomine-domini-papal-version/) ?Any election claimed today on this basis is almost certainly invalid by traditional Catholic doctrine, not because the text is false, but because the canonical and hierarchical context has changed and was never designed for such extraordinary modern use.
Please elaborate,
Any election claimed today on this basis is almost certainly invalid by traditional Catholic doctrine, not because the text is false, but because the canonical and hierarchical context has changed and was never designed for such extraordinary modern use.
Well, that is a matter of perspective.Yes we are aware of what the Sedevacantist sect believes, in this case, selective sedevacantists.
From their viewpoint, "Leo" was not canonically elected - therefore Bobby Prevost is the actual Antipope.
Yes we are aware of what the Sedevacantist sect believes, in this case, selective sedevacantists.Please tell us how the sedes "reject Christ".
Yes, it would be interesting for sure...
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What do you think of the merits of his argument using the Bull In Nomini Domini (https://www.fromrome.info/2025/07/31/pope-nicholas-iis-bull-in-nomine-domini-papal-version/) ?
Any election claimed today on this basis is almost certainly invalid by traditional Catholic doctrine, not because the text is false, but because the canonical and hierarchical context has changed and was never designed for such extraordinary modern use.
https://sedesapostolica.info/
Didn't Fr. Hewko come out as Bennyvacantist at one point?Lol. He rebukes any form of Sedevacantism at least once a month.
Lol. He rebukes any form of Sedevacantism at least once a month.Doesn't answer my question...
Doesn't answer my question...Do the research yourself lazy bones, the answer is pretty obvious though, he has a sermon almost every single day for the past 10 years on his youtube channel, and he is all over the internet with writings etc. he is not exactly quiet.
Do the research yourself lazy bones, the answer is pretty obvious though, he has a sermon almost every single day for the past 10 years on his youtube channel, and he is all over the internet with writings etc. he is not exactly quiet.
Slow your roll, and know your role woman.:laugh1::laugh2::jester::fryingpan::facepalm::popcorn:
Ladislaus for Pope ! 😃
sting only of Cardinals”. Thank you again.Yeah I don't fully understand what this means regarding the changed made by Piis 12 and JP2.
Thanks. I accept ... just so I could take a day or two to excommunicate a few people by name, then spend a few weeks condemning a bunch of errors, including those held by many Trads, and then I would resign and go to a monastery. Of course, the excommunications would be unprecedented, where they would take the form of "... that poster on CathInfo using the screen name [fill in the blank], let him be anathema."Why anyone would want to be pope is beyond me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
Why anyone would want to be pope is beyond me. I wouldn't touch it with a ten foot pole.
"The road to hell is paved with the skulls of bishops."
Oh, might be good to excommunicate Croix too ... just for fun..
Just tongue-in-cheek to excommunicate a few CathInfo posters, like this Gubbins guy, and Michael Matt, Taylor Marshall, Salza, Siscoe, and some others. After which, I would resign and retire. Oh, might be good to excommunicate Croix too ... just for fun.I wouldn't even think about being pope tongue-in-cheek.
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This is intrinsically illegitimate.
Well, at least we now know that they didn't "sanate" the election of Leo as they did with Francis.
Don't suppose it could be Viganò, eh?
Stay tuned.
Rather strange choice of names also ... Hildebrand.You can rename your living room ‘The Vatican’ and stage a pontificate in your garage, but canon law still sees nothing but schism.
Hildebrand was the family name, surname, of Pope Gregory VII.
That's the equivalent of if I would take the name "Pope Sarto" ... unusual and strange.
I think that more and more of us are expecting only Peter II and the final consummation of the world at this point.
Yeah, yeah ... sure, just because you say so. You need not actually present any reasons or arguments, but just bloviate by using the word "intrinsically" as in that it's "self-evident".Affirm or deny:
False.“To Honorius, the heretic, anathema!“
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Rather strange choice of names also ... Hildebrand.
Hildebrand was the family name, surname, of Pope Gregory VII.
It is actually really sad...Affirm or Deny. https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/affirm-or-deny-heretic-yet-pope-until-death-(pope-honorius-i-case/msg1010146/?topicseen#msg1010146 (https://www.cathinfo.com/crisis-in-the-church/affirm-or-deny-heretic-yet-pope-until-death-(pope-honorius-i-case/msg1010146/?topicseen#msg1010146)
You NEED the Popes of the pass to be heretics so you can cling to the heretical non-popes now.
You attack the Papacy with the same arguments that Protestants used against the Papacy.
I will stick with Pope Leo II, St. Robert Bellarmine, and all faithful Catholics on this.
Now, why won't you address my question to you about the "CatholicTrumpet" Thoughts?
You can rename your living room ‘The Vatican’ and stage a pontificate in your garage, but canon law still sees nothing but schism.
Indeed. While it is the secular surname of a pope-saint (Gregory VII), if you're seeking to honor him, why not just take the papal name Gregory?
I fail to understand what all the coyness is about, first teasing that a pope has been elected but not saying who he is, then releasing his chosen papal name but not disclosing his identity. It doesn't exactly inspire confidence.
While we can poke some fun at Pope Bawden I, this initiative in Rome actually has some shades of legitimacy about it. I just wonder who these "clergy of Rome" happen to be. Are they true clergy of Rome or are they carpet-baggers of one form or another? If the See of Rome had been vacant since the death of Pope Pius XII, who would be legitimate "clergy of Rome" anyway? Of course, Brother Bugnolo believe that Montini, Wojtyla, and Ratzinger were all valid, so he would have different criteria for answering that question, which, neverthless, many Traditional Catholics would disagree with.
Not even close to the same thing. They're actually basing it on something arguably very real..
He's not wrong that originally papal elelctions were conducted by the clergy of Rome, and Cardinals are in fact merely extensions of that, since every Cardinal receives a titular Church in Rome and is made a clergy of Rome.
So in the event of a total apostasy of Cardinals, or if they were all blown up by a nuke, or they're all illegitimate since we've had a long line of AntiPopes (that's not their argument of coure, but a lot of us believe that to be the case) ...
why couldn't the papal election in such a case revert back to the clergy of Rome?
I think one could actually make some case for this. While it's rather shaky ... it's a FAR CRY from your absurd (and fallacious) nonense about my renaming my living room and holding an election in my garage ... so your analogy is just stupid.
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Well, in theory this might be arguable, but this guy Bugnolo is just a well-known crank, so I wouldn't entertain the idea of this being valid anyway. A claim like this would have to come from someone who could be considered at least a sane human being before this conversation even gets to first base, in my opinion.
I saw a video of a "press conference" that Brother Bugnolo put on yesterday ...Anti-Pope Hildebrand.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MEwS67aYbg
First thing I noticed is that the house he's in definitely looks to be of an American style, not Italian ... and he did later confirm that in the video. So he's now in the US.
Says the election was held somewhere in central Italy, and he does provide an explanation for why they haven't released the name, and it's somewhat plausible.
1) they're waiting until they can find someone to consecrate the electee as a bishop (answering one question we've had)
2) the electee isn't very well off financially, so he can't afford security, and they're afraid that someone might try to take him out
So the big drama will be ... who's going to consecrate this man a bishop? Will it be a valid bishop or will he take any Novus Ordo "bishop" he can find willing to do it?
Some listener asked if the man was even a priest, and he would not answer, saying that it would be to give too many hints about his identity (though I doubt that would narrow it down at all).
So, they claim Prevost was not legitimately elected due to having too many Cardinals (I would say too few, as in 0 actual Cardinals), but then he appears to contradict his own principles when he says that if there can't be election that meets the rule set down, you can have one that falls outside the normal rules. But I'm thinking, then, that ... OK, but then why couldn't the current "Cardinals" pulled it off as well?
Just seems way too legalistic, with very little reference to the apostasy, the Crisis, etc.
Says that the Pope Hildebrand will issue his "Urbi et Orbi" letter on Christmas Eve, that Bugnolo will present during a Live Stream. He says he'll invite various internet personalities onto the stream, and allow them to ask questions, etc.
But what if they can't find someone to consecrate this Hildebrand before then?
He did speak about taking a papal name where the electee didn't want to just use Gregory, but very specifically wanted to honor Pope Gregory VII (family name Hildebrand).
He did make an interesting note about the custom of popes taking on a papal name, that it started with a Pope who'se real name was "Mercurius", but he didn't want priests putting the name of a pagan God into the Mass and praying to "Mercurius", giving the possible impression that they're engaging in idolatry. So this Mercurius adopted the name John, and the custom went on from there.
So, while he did not give the name of the electee ... it would have been nice had he provided the names of those who participated in the election and who ultimately elected this man pope. Who these "electors" were is probably more important even than who the electee was. Are they clergy of Rome in any real sense?
Anti-Pope Hildebrand.
Says the election was held somewhere in central Italy, and he does provide an explanation for why they haven't released the name, and it's somewhat plausible..
1) they're waiting until they can find someone to consecrate the electee as a bishop (answering one question we've had)
2) the electee isn't very well off financially, so he can't afford security, and they're afraid that someone might try to take him out
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The great thing about both these excuses is that they are potentially indefinite. "Nope, nope, sorry, still haven't found a consecrating bishop yet, and his life is still in danger, so we still can't reveal who he is, sorry ..."
That can go on forever, and I'm kind of suspecting it's supposed to and is going to.
The lack of consecrating bishop excuses makes no sense anyway, since a pope can exercise the papacy even before receiving episcopal consecration, and Bugnolo seems like the kind of person who would know that.
The lack of consecrating bishop excuses makes no sense anyway, since a pope can exercise the papacy even before receiving episcopal consecration, and Bugnolo seems like the kind of person who would know that.
With all the episcopal lines out there, surely they could find someone to consecrate him.
Just guessing, perhaps a condition of getting a bishop to agree to the consecration, is that they might require that bishop to swear loyalty to Hildebrand, and that could be a sticking point.
This whole situation is just bizarre.:laugh1:
indicating yes or no on priest might in fact dox him, and make him a target..
Could also be a Brother ... as in Bugnolo.
In his podcast, he refused to answer the question of whether he was a priest, believing that would compromise secrecy regarding his identity. While there are many at-least-NO priests out there, the pool shrinks dramatically when you consider they would have to be Prevost-vacantists.
Priests? Possibly "Fr." Kramer or else there were a couple Italian "priests" who went Bergoglio-vacantist.
Other than that, Bro B himself or else Ann Barnhardt (found to be actually a man) LOL
Obviously just kidding, but there's a very small pool of Prevovacantists, so indicating yes or no on priest might in fact dox him, and make him a target.
There is also the provision in canon law (Canon 378 §4 1983 CIC) that a priest must have been ordained for five years before being consecrated a bishop (epikeia, anyone?).
Canon 330 in the 1917 CIC, per Woywod/Smith, contains the same requirement.
Honestly I don't think anybody would have the slightest desire to shoot whoever this person is, assuming he exists at all, which I don't believe. I think the whole thing is a big hoax. But I also don't think the modernists or globalists or anybody similar would see any reason to shoot whoever is involved in this ridiculous dog and pony show. I mean, nobody ever tried to αssαssιnαtҽ Pope Michael, and that's about on the same level as this one. :laugh1:
Canon Law always reflects what's necessary for a well-ordered society under normal conditions, and was routinely dispensed with for any just cause. Leo X, for instance, had been elected Pope without being a priest (was a Cardinal-deacon), and then quickly ordained, and then consecrated.I am guessing that this was done out of necessity during the period of Soviet hegemony in eastern Europe, and that the canon was dispensed with.
Here's a more recent example of a man who had been a priest for less than a year before being consecrated a bishop.
https://www.catholic-hierarchy.org/bishop/bkorec.html
That would be the least of my concerns regarding this papal "election".
I am guessing that this was done out of necessity during the period of Soviet hegemony in eastern Europe, and that the canon was dispensed with.
A Cardinal of the Holy Roman Church who has been created and published in a consistory has, by that very fact, the right to elect the Pope.
That raises an interesting question. Can a priest or even a lay Catholic adhere to a pope whose identity he does not even know? I don't see how that's possible.I say yes.
I am reasonably certain that Bugnolo is "Hildebrand," that he will never be consecrated, and that this latest methane balloon cannot last for too much longer a time.I'm not familiar enough with Bugnolo's writing, to be able to say one way or the other, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the "plan" is as you describe. They are now reporting that "technical problems" have forced the cancellation of their January 8 and 10 press conferences. Their attempts thus far on their YouTube site have been a hot mess.
If you read "Hildebrand's" "magisterium," it has Bugnolo's fingerprints all over it. I don't need Sherlock's magnifying glass to line up the whorls.
I'm not familiar enough with Bugnolo's writing, to be able to say one way or the other, but I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the "plan" is as you describe. They are now reporting that "technical problems" have forced the cancellation of their January 8 and 10 press conferences. Their attempts thus far on their YouTube site have been a hot mess.
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This is hilarious! He claims he can't do his livestream because YouTube has assigned a technician (https://www.fromrome.info/2026/01/07/press-conference-on-hildebrands-urbi-et-orbi-letter-saturday-6-pm-rome-time/) to interfere with his broadcast.
It is canceled indefinitely.
Anyone who believes any of this must have manure for brains.
Some laymen are not acting as you do, however. Chief among them are the Freemasons at Cathar Info, who spend all day attacking Catholic Bishops and Priests, to mutually assure their own hatred, disrespect, disobedience and excuse for their corrupt consciences. They have dedicated an entire thread to attack the Pope elect and denigrate his supporters. They appear to be the only website on the internet which has taken interest in Hildebrand, though for perverse reasons.
From 01/06:He miserably tries and fails to portray those who dispute a contested election as anticlericals and even likens them to the Cathars, but the analogy collapses once one recalls that the Cathars were not mere critics of corrupt clergy but radical dualists who rejected the visible Church, the sacramental priesthood, and apostolic succession. If one grants—even hypothetically—that Leo presides over a false ecclesial structure, then the resemblance to the Cathars lies far more with a counterfeit hierarchy that undermines the Church’s juridical and sacramental constitution than with Catholics who repudiate an invalid election performed by 3 men in private.
https://www.fromrome.info/2026/01/06/what-you-can-do-to-promote-the-restoration-of-the-church/
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