The mere fact that heresy and error came forth through the post-conciliar Magisterium and these "Popes" is an indication that the Holy Spirit is not with them, that faith has in fact failed the successors of Peter, and that Christ is fine with contradictions being bound by this authority. All of which go against the indefectibility of the Church, therefore showing that either the Catholic Church is not the true Church of Christ or that the hierarchy is false.
The mere existence of a traditional movement is an indicator of this fact.
Ok you are missing the point though. Since you said nothing to my previous question, I am guessing that you agree that Christ and the Church are one and the same. As such, what reason can there be to be concerned about the defection of the Church, which is Christ, as that is something that can never happen.
I reworded your above reply your to make it agreeable: The mere fact that heresy and error came forth through the post-conciliar teachings of the conciliar popes, is, in all trad's observations, indeed an indication that the Holy Ghost is not with them, that they've lost the faith and have in fact failed in their duties as the successors of Peter. But Christ is not fine with any of that.
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