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There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2010, 03:37:56 PM »
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  • There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    « Reply #2 on: December 22, 2010, 04:57:04 PM »
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  • Reminds me of the excellent Angelus article exposing how Der Speigel and enemies of the Church are relentlessly propagandizing this issue just as the Nazis did.

    This article is nothing but a hack peice. We are supposed to pretend that the Pope is justifying child porn as normal? What a joke of a headline.

    The liberals can't have it both ways as the Society points out. They can't crucify the Pope for not doing enough to stop the scandal while at the same time lobbying to make pedophilia legal. Sweden already made incest legal! A bunch of hypocrites.

    And Roscoe, if you're not high and can read this, I hope you are proud of yourself for spreading libel and aiding the enemies of Christ. May God have mercy on your soul.

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    « Reply #3 on: December 22, 2010, 05:01:25 PM »
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  •  :roll-laugh1:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #4 on: December 22, 2010, 05:21:51 PM »
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  • I am not one to defend/make excuses for the damage B16 has done to the Faith, but the title of this thread and that linked article are way off the mark.

    What B16 said on pedophilia and child pornography can be found in the link below.

    http://wdtprs.com/blog/2010/12/benedict-xvis-grim-state-of-the-union-christmas-address-to-the-roman-curia/


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    « Reply #5 on: December 22, 2010, 05:50:35 PM »
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    It was maintained — even within the realm of Catholic theology — that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a ‘better than' and a ‘worse than'. Nothing is good or bad in itself.”

    Read more: http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/popersquos-child-porn-normal-claim-sparks-outrage-among-victims--15035449.html#ixzz18t5YNuKE


    The claim that it was maintained "within the realm of Catholic theology" that "there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself" is a bizarre statement for the Pope to make.    

    But hey, media nazis are out to get him! At least there's  Jewish businessman defending the Church with a letter to the editorial!


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    « Reply #6 on: December 22, 2010, 06:02:54 PM »
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  • This is what B16 said:

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    In order to resist these forces, we must turn our attention to their ideological foundations. In the 1970s, paedophilia was theorized as something fully in conformity with man and even with children. This, however, was part of a fundamental perversion of the concept of ethos. It was maintained – even within the realm of Catholic theology – that there is no such thing as evil in itself or good in itself. There is only a “better than” and a “worse than”. Nothing is good or bad in itself. Everything depends on the circumstances and on the end in view. Anything can be good or also bad, depending upon purposes and circumstances. Morality is replaced by a calculus of consequences, and in the process it ceases to exist. The effects of such theories are evident today. Against them, Pope John Paul II, in his 1993 Encyclical Letter Veritatis Splendor, indicated with prophetic force in the great rational tradition of Christian ethos the essential and permanent foundations of moral action. [In a state of the union address, you must also give direction...] Today, attention must be focused anew on this text as a path in the formation of conscience. It is our responsibility to make these criteria audible and intelligible once more for people today as paths of true humanity, in the context of our paramount concern for mankind.....etc.

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    « Reply #7 on: December 22, 2010, 06:21:43 PM »
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  • That's better.

    But why does he say it was maintained in Catholic theology?

    Who maintained it, and why were they permitted to maintain it?


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    « Reply #8 on: December 22, 2010, 07:24:25 PM »
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  • The reason he says it is because he is an anti-pope.  :whistleblower:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #9 on: December 23, 2010, 03:37:29 PM »
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  • Stevus:
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    We are supposed to pretend that the Pope is justifying child porn as normal? What a joke of a headline.


    Most are not convinced or certain that the pope is justifying child porn and calling it normal.  Most Catholics, I would say, don't know to take it.  However, the (deliberate?) imprecision of his language can lead people to that conclusion.  Here is a pope who speaks a number of languages, is a scholar in his own right, and written a number of books, who can't seem to communicate exactly what he did mean in plain Italian or German.  Should this not give one pause?

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    « Reply #10 on: December 23, 2010, 08:44:38 PM »
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    But hey, media nazis are out to get him!


    Come on Tele!    The Media Nazis are out to get him?  Benedict is the leader of the one world church!!!!!!!! :pop:


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    « Reply #11 on: December 23, 2010, 08:57:02 PM »
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  • I dont think Em has read the whole topic. It is Stevus who inferred that that anyone attacking the anti-pope was Nazi friendly.  :smoke-pot:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #12 on: December 23, 2010, 10:29:17 PM »
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  • Although  it is not clear to me exactly what she is trying to say.
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
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    « Reply #13 on: December 24, 2010, 08:11:10 AM »
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  • Quote from: Telesphorus
    That's better.

    But why does he say it was maintained in Catholic theology?

    Who maintained it, and why were they permitted to maintain it?


    For those who were not involved with the Conciliar Church and the Novus Ordo as I was, situational ethics was all the rage in adult catechisms, retreats, etc. beginning sometime in the 1970s and lasting well into the 1990s.  The fad began to wane in the early 1990s but was still holding on when I escaped the Novus Ordo.

    I don't know its current status.

    He says it was "maintained in Catholic theology" because he can't differentiate between Catholic theology and heresy.  If Conciliar theologians are discussing it, he thinks its Catholic.  And remember that Benedict believes that theology can evolve and that what was true at one time may not be true today and vice-versa.

    On the other hand...

    The article seems to be another false condemnation of a false pope.  Benedict is clearly not defending as "normal" the evils being discussed.  He is trying to explain what he sees are the historical circumstances that led to the crisis that he is having to deal with.  He is not defending them.

    By making the false charge, those who accept the papal claims of Benedict attribute perfectly valid condemnations as unfounded as well and merely more persecutions that the Church has had to deal with since her founding.  Anytime one sees or reads something that seems, at first glance, to show Benedict in an evil light, one should pause for a day, slowly re-read the document from the point of view of a Conciliar Catholic believing that the Vicar of Christ is speaking, and see if the evidence is truly damning or simply one more bit of crazy talk that doesn't actually prove anything.

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    « Reply #14 on: December 26, 2010, 04:52:09 AM »
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  • OK, let me get this straight.  There is an article that shows the Pope making accusations against modern culture.  He says primarily that child porn (a bad thing) is basically on the verge of normalization (a bad thing), and the Candylanders (Holierthanthous) attack him because they're too thick to read what was said and only read the headline or misread the whole piece because they see what they want to (the self-proclaimed intelligent in many cases no doubt)..."pope says child porn normal"


    This from the same crowd that will actually say that mainline entertainment is tantamount to child porn.....yeah that's right.  I had some Candylander on the other forum explain to me how Kick-Ass was actually child porn, and the moron was serious....so like the liberals that Stevus talked about....neither can the Candylander Holierthanthous have it both ways....

    And you know what; ya didn’t even have to read his full comments.  Enough of what he said was clear in the article.

     

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