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Offline Capt McQuigg

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Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
« Reply #165 on: October 09, 2012, 01:39:37 PM »
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  • Bishop Williamson did not deny the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  He merely estimated the number of the dead in the 180,000 to 300,000.  

    We clearly live in a world where blaspheming and mocking Christ is considered everyday chatter while any question regarding the h0Ɩ0cαųst is some sort of crime - in Germany, apparently, you can have charges filed against you.

    I don't think there will be a split but I do think it's getting near the time for the SSPX to consecrate two (2) more bishops.  


    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #166 on: October 10, 2012, 03:23:01 PM »
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  • Quote from: Ethelred
    Quote from: Roman Catholic
    Just out of interest, what is funny about the sound of "Ratzi" in German?

    Because when you add an "i" to many German words, they tend to sound twee and a bit like baby talk.

    So if a German wants to shorten Ratzingers name he usually says "Ratze" or "Ratz" which still sounds a little bit funny, but not twee. In contrast to that "Ratzi" sounds like you would call a baby's name. Just twee.
    (Of course Benedict XVI or Ratzi as you call him, isn't twee in reality but extremely dangerous. Still it sounds very funny when you English speaking people call him "Ratzi". I like it. :-)



    Quote from: Elizbeth"
    Is Fr. Schmidberger the priest who said Mass for Mel Gibson during the filming of The Passion?  I apologise if I have the names mixed up.

    Definitively not Fr. Schmidberger.



    I recall hearing that Fr. Stephen Somerville said Mass for Mel at the set of "The
    Passion of the Christ."

    Their names both start with "S" and have m, i, r, and two e's.  . . . . . .  :boxer:


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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #167 on: October 10, 2012, 03:44:58 PM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    Bishop Williamson did not deny the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  He merely estimated the number of the dead in the 180,000 to 300,000.  

    We clearly live in a world where blaspheming and mocking Christ is considered everyday chatter while any question regarding the h0Ɩ0cαųst is some sort of crime - in Germany, apparently, you can have charges filed against you.

    I don't think there will be a split but I do think it's getting near the time for the SSPX to consecrate two (2) more bishops.  



    As I recall, he also questioned the historical existence of poison gas used for
    execution on a large scale (the "showers" scenario) and the large scale use of
    incinerators for cremation, based on the physical evidence that we have and on
    the evidence that was available when various studies were conducted (which was
    more evidence then than there is now).  

    It is most instructive to note that the German court went on record saying that
    the facts of history have nothing to do with +W's charges, which are inciting
    racial unrest.
    You see, the 'crime' isn't what he said, really, but how what he
    said made someone 'feel' about it.  He is therefore responsible for what he says
    BECAUSE of how it makes someone else feel, someone he doesn't have to know
    or ever have to have met.  

    This principle is extremely dangerous, for how many ways are there for
    someone to be offended with what someone else says?  You can pick up the
    Bible and read just about on any page, something that offends someone,
    somewhere.  

    Why isn't what Muslims say in their Mosques a crime?  That offends people.
    Or what about Jєωs?  Why can they go around uttering blasphemies about
    Our Lord and Our Lady, even in public places like comedy clubs, and that isn't a
    crime?  This law is entirely unjust and anti-Catholic.  As such, the law is an
    offense against itself!!










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    Offline Ethelred

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #168 on: October 11, 2012, 03:01:54 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Their names both start with "S" and have m, i, r, and two e's.  . . . . . .  :boxer:

    Yes, so their names are very easily to confuse... not. :-)

    Thanks for your articles, Neil.

    Offline Ethelred

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #169 on: October 11, 2012, 03:05:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Capt McQuigg
    Bishop Williamson did not deny the h0Ɩ0cαųst.  He merely estimated the number of the dead in the 180,000 to 300,000.

    Sigh. "The victories achieved by Second World War revisionism are many and significant, but, as must sadly be recognised, they still remain, in our day, almost wholly unknown to the greater public..."

    Please, let's get that straight: Bishop Williamson actually denied and denies the "h0Ɩ0cαųst", because there simply was no "h0Ɩ0cαųst". Not with gas, not with any other means.
    The brave bishop already said in Canada in the 1990ies (?) during a sermon that there was no "h0Ɩ0cαųst". I think it was then whe the international Jєωs "marked" him as public enemy number one. And he repeated and repeats his denial on various occasions in public and private. Please, delve into his words.

    He knows the main work of the revisionists very well, and his (correct) judgement on this topic is based on their solid studies. In his Sweden interview the bishop is quoting the brave US-American gas chamber expert Fred Leuchter, who because of his love of (technical) truth became involuntarily a revisionist, and who became the technical expert for French revisionist Prof. Faurisson who fought and won with Ernst Zündel the famous Canadian "h0Ɩ0cαųst" trials.


    Furthermore I strongly recommend you to read some serious background information about the "h0Ɩ0cαųst". For a good start:
    The Victories of Revisionism (Faurisson, 2006)

    Here's a key part from this article answering the question why 200.000 - 300.000 Jєωs died (not murdered!) in the prison camps when Germany collapsed, "like tens of millions of non-Jєωs" died "due to the war and to hunger and disease" :

    Quote from: Prof. Faurisson
    [..] But then, as people will ask, what became of all those Jєωs concerning whom we revisionists have concluded from our research that they were never killed?

    The answer is already there, right before our eyes and within everyone’s grasp: a part of the Jєωιѕн population of Europe died, like tens of millions of non-Jєωs, due to the war and to hunger and disease, and another part plainly and simply survived the war in their millions. These latter fraudulently had themselves dubbed “miraculous” survivors.
    In 1945 the “survivors” and “miraculous escapees” were there to be counted by the million and they spread throughout the world to fifty or so countries, beginning with Palestine.

    How could an alleged decision of total physical extermination of the Jєωs have so engendered millions of “miraculous” Jєωιѕн survivors? With millions of “miraculous survivors” there is no longer any miracle: it is a false miracle, a lie, a fraud.


    For my part, in 1980 I summed up, in a sentence of sixty French words, the findings produced by revisionist research:

    The alleged Hitlerite gas chambers and the alleged genocide of the Jєωs form one and the same historical lie, which has permitted a gigantic political and financial swindle whose main beneficiaries are the state of Israel and international Zionism and whose main victims are the German people – but not their leaders – and the Palestinian people in their entirety.

    Today, in 2006, that is, twenty-six years later, I maintain that sentence in full. It had not been inspired by any political or religious sympathy or antipathy whatsoever. [..]

    From 1951 onwards, year after year, our adversaries, so rich, so mighty, so bent on practising all possible forms of repression against historical revisionism, have found themselves progressively forced to admit that we are right on the technical, scientific and historical levels.

    The victories achieved by Second World War revisionism are many and significant, but, as must sadly be recognised, they still remain, in our day, almost wholly unknown to the greater public.
    The mighty have done everything to conceal these victories from the world. That is understandable: their domination and sharing of the world between them are in a way grounded in the religion of the alleged “h0Ɩ0cαųst” of the Jєωs.

    Calling the “h0Ɩ0cαųst” into question, publicly disclosing the extraordinary imposture of it all, pulling the masks off the politicians, journalists, historians, academics and people of the churches, clans and coteries who, for more than sixty years, have been preaching falsehoods whilst all the time casting anathema on the unbelievers, amounts to a perilous adventure. But, as will be seen here, despite the repression, time seems in the end to be on the revisionists’ side.



    But we already discussed that here: Bishop Williamson brought back to court for
    ... and here: Mass Gassing of Jєωs by nαzιs - When did the world learn of it?


    Offline Elizabeth

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #170 on: October 12, 2012, 09:08:31 AM »
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    Their names both start with "S" and have m, i, r, and two e's.  . . . . . .  :boxer:



       :fryingpan: OK I learn the hard way.  :fryingpan:

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    Imminent split between Bishop Williamson and the SSPX?
    « Reply #171 on: October 13, 2012, 04:36:36 PM »
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  • h0Ɩ0cαųst: burnt offering prescribed by God through Moses and those offerings satisfied God, til Jesus Christ gave the Perfect sacrifice.  Jєωs may resent the term h0Ɩ0cαųst and prefer Shoah.