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Offline 2Vermont

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Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #30 on: January 09, 2019, 06:11:07 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on January 09, 2019, 05:55:49 PM
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    What you're supposed to do now is to pray the daily Rosary.
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    The fact that Our Lady's solid wooden statue was seen to cry real human tears exactly 101 times in Akita (an approved apparition) was mysteriously an integral part of the historical record. Maybe you didn't know about that. You didn't publish it. There has been much speculation as to what that number, 101, signifies, precisely. Since this year is 101 years since the Fatima apparitions, maybe this is the year we will find out what the 101 means.
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    So keep your Lord of Sandwich board polished.
    Akita?  If that was approved wasn't it approved by the Novus Ordo...around 1973?
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #31 on: January 09, 2019, 06:37:38 PM »
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    • Been doing that since 1971
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #32 on: January 09, 2019, 08:00:43 PM »
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    • Quote from: 2Vermont on January 09, 2019, 06:11:07 PM
    Akita?  If that was approved wasn't it approved by the Novus Ordo...around 1973?
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    Maybe you don't know how it works. "The Novus Ordo" isn't what approved Akita.
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    Offline Neil Obstat

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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #33 on: January 09, 2019, 08:02:32 PM »
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    • Quote from: ggreg on January 09, 2019, 06:37:38 PM
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    Been doing that since 1971
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    Must be a really shiny Lord of Sandwich board by now 
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #34 on: January 09, 2019, 08:26:12 PM »
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    • Quote from: Neil Obstat on January 09, 2019, 08:00:43 PM
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    Maybe you don't know how it works. "The Novus Ordo" isn't what approved Akita.
    Who approved Akita then?  Same church hierarchy that approved the Novus Ordo and Vatican 2 , no?
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #35 on: January 09, 2019, 08:28:56 PM »
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #36 on: January 09, 2019, 08:42:45 PM »
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    • The real Lucia has much fuller lips than the imposter. This, alone, proves there was an imposter "Lucia". The fullness of a woman's lips don't decrease that much in size due to age.
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #37 on: January 10, 2019, 01:59:22 AM »
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #38 on: January 10, 2019, 02:18:57 AM »
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    • One of the reasons I tend to discount conspiracy theories is because people make statements that are easily verifiable to the contrary.

    That they didn't bother to fact check, tells me they want to believe the conspiracy rather than they want to only believe it, if the weight of evidence leaves them no other choice.

    I believe in the 911 conspiracy for 1 reason alone.  Building 7 of the World Trade Centre.  It comes down exactly like a controlled demolition.  You would shake the hand of the demolition expert who could bring you builfing down as neatly  I have never seen a justification of why it would collapse like that when it was not hit by an aeroplane and had zero jet fuel burnjng inside it.  I watch it live on BBC TV and thought it was weird on the day it happened.  Buildings just dont pancake neatly like that.  My father is a building research scientist who worked for the UK goverment at the Building Research Establishment.

    If it is due to random fires then show me any other burning building that has collapsed that neatly.

    And why go to the expense of blowing a building up when fire can bring it down just as neatly?  Demolition experts could save months and millions of dollars.

    Yet, give me a good reason for it falling like that and I would believe it fell.

    Likewise, for 2 Sister Lucia's I want hard evidence I cannot explain within a couple of Google searches.  So far I have seen nothing like that.
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #39 on: January 10, 2019, 09:39:57 AM »
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #40 on: January 10, 2019, 09:42:58 AM »
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    • Quote from: Quid Retribuam Domino on January 09, 2019, 08:42:45 PM
    The real Lucia has much fuller lips than the imposter. This, alone, proves there was an imposter "Lucia". The fullness of a woman's lips don't decrease that much in size due to age.
    I don’t know about that.. my great grandma has beautiful full lips when she was younger, but they were razor thin once she was older. I had to be very careful when I did her make up, and lipstick. 
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #41 on: January 10, 2019, 12:40:27 PM »
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    • Lips get thinner, but not that much thinner. Also, the symmetry of Lucia's and the imposter's mouths are very different. The only natural cause is if Lucia had a stroke or AVM-induced brain hemorrhage. Did she ever have such medical condition?
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #42 on: January 10, 2019, 04:04:13 PM »
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    • Read the link above.  There are other reasons for thinning lips.
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #43 on: January 10, 2019, 05:21:29 PM »
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    • Quote from: ggreg on January 08, 2019, 02:27:31 AM
    It appears to me that in order to defend Fatima we do all sorts of interpretation and selective reading and invent two-sister lucy theories, when at face value it is more innaccurate than accurate.

    To me, the most damning part of Fatima is the fact that Sister Lucia went along with the modernist changes and slobbered over JP2's hands in the most fawning way in June 2000.  Obviously, the doppleganger theory gets around this which is why it gets traction with some (but not most) Traditionalists, but having studied it I see no credibility or strong evidence for it.  There are unanswered flaws such as why all of the other sisters in the convent did not notice that a person had been swapped out for a doppleganger, or Lucia's family members or indeed what the Church gained by it for the HUGE risk of potential exposure, when compared to simply suiciding sister lucia in 1972 and saying she has died of natural causes.  The doppleganger didn't really do anything.  Sister Lucia simply dying (being killed) would be much less risky and still serve to take the spotlight off Fatima.
    While the investigation is not complete, Dr. Chojnowski http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/ has already released some evidence that supports the theory that there was an imposter posing as Sr Lucy.  Most people who are already convinced that there was an imposter believe that the switch happened before 1960.  She was not seen in public from 1947 until 1967.  There are no photographs of her for 20 years.  Isn't that odd?  As for her family, she was moved from the Dorothean convent (not cloistered) to the Carmelite convent in 1947.  That is highly unusual.  She took perpetual vows as a Dorothean.  I think it would be highly unlikely that she would seek to be dispensed from those vows so that she could profess new vows in the Carmel.  And conveniently the Carmel does not allow frequent visits from family and friends and when they do visit she would be required to be behind a grate.  If you have seen pictures of the grate, you can see that it is hard to see inside of it.  Dr Chojnowski has uncovered evidence that the Carmel was associated with Opus Dei (another shady organization).  So the whole thing stinks.  Sr Lucy was not in great health in the 1940s.  I would not be surprised if she died in 1947 and Opus Dei took the opportunity to substitute an imposter at that time.  The goal being to suppress the 3rd secret which probably reveals the fake council and the fake popes since Pope Pius XII.
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    Re: The Age of Fatima
    « Reply #44 on: January 10, 2019, 05:45:23 PM »
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    • Good to "see" you CM!
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