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Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #5 on: January 07, 2019, 08:31:03 PM »
This prophecy was as incorrect as Joey Lomangino "getting his eyes back on the day of the miracle".

Fatima, or Garabandal?

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2014/06/the-death-of-joey-lomangino-blow-to.html



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The passing of Joseph Lomangino on the anniversary of the first apparition and also the last public message of Garabandal
 6/18/2014- Lindenhurst, New York.
 June 18, 2014 has marked the passing of Joseph "Joey" Lomangino, precisely 53 years ago to the day of the first alleged heavenly apparition (June 18, 1961) to four young girls in Garabandal, Spain.



Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #6 on: January 07, 2019, 08:57:21 PM »
The age of Fatima has truly arrived:


Direct open denial of the Virgin birth. Boom. No longer a Catholic bishop. Or do we have to wait around for a higher authority to tell us that he is no longer a member of the Church. Hmmmmm.

Wonder how many other Bishops believe this? A semi truck load of them I would bet. You know all those ones that have that special proclivity that we have been hearing about lately.
They are not even valid priests, let alone bishops! The only thing these articles are good for is to show the few Novus Ordos of good will that the people they follow are not even Catholic.


Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #7 on: January 07, 2019, 11:08:06 PM »
The Bishop of Oporto is undoubtedly, a manifest, public heretic. The dogma of the Perpetual Virginity of Our Lady is one of the four infallibly defined Marian dogmas of our Catholic Faith. It has been held since the Second Council of Constantinople in the IV century. To deny that Our Lady was always a Virgin before, during, and after the birth of Jesus Christ is a diabolical blasphemy.

Our Dear Lady, Most Holy, is Ever Virgin and this is not a metaphor, but a biological reality. Her immaculate body did not suffer any physical injury in giving birth to Jesus.

Shame on this heretic!

Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #8 on: January 08, 2019, 02:27:31 AM »


Russia will spread its errors throughout the world, raising up wars and persecutions against the Church. The good will be martyred, the Holy Father will have much to suffer, and various nations will be annihilated.”


So far the Church has mostly persecuted itself.  I have not seen persecutions that can be laid at the feet of Russia.  Modernism was around at the time of Pius Xth and survived and came back at Vatican II.  But that wasnt't Russia.  Those Pope were Italian, Polish, German and Argentinian,

Few wars have been started by Russia in the last 100 years.  Revolutions yes, but not many wars.  Compared to wars started by the USA, UK, Israel, Japan, Middle Eastern countries.

Afghanistan and Indochina are two wars that can be laid squarely at the feet of Russia.  Perhaps China and WW 2 but that is closely tied to Japanese invasion as well.  In the grand scheme of wars of the 20th Century can we particularly single out Russia as the culprit?

I thought most of you believed it was the Jєωιѕн International Bankers who caused the wars.

The good have not been martyred.  Not in any significant numbers where they stand out from most other centuries.   Sure, Russia martyred Orthodox priests and nuns (mostly).  But they are heretics, they are not conceivably "the good", other than they died for their schismatic version of Christianity.  If the good are martyred, surely we notice don't we?  Does the martyrdom of the good not imply an event where a sizeable number of "the good", presumeably faithful baptised Catholics, are martyred.

What is the point of prophecy if we have to intrepret and retrofit it to get it to work.  Just say, "Rome will lose the faith and become the seat of the Antichrist".  That DID happen and we can all agree it happened.

Now, all of this COULD BE in the future.  Perhaps Vladimir Putin, or his successor, or his successor, is really secretly very evil and invades Europe and attacks a Church that is newly restoring and bringing back Tradition.  Perhaps, but right now it looks like Russia is resisting the evil more than spreading it.  Churches are being built in Russia (albeit Orthdox ones)m family life is being encouraged, abortion discouraged and it is one of the few places on earth where sodomites don't rule the day.

It appears to me that in order to defend Fatima we do all sorts of interpretation and selective reading and invent two-sister lucy theories, when at face value it is more innaccurate than accurate.

To me, the most damning part of Fatima is the fact that Sister Lucia went along with the modernist changes and slobbered over JP2's hands in the most fawning way in June 2000.  Obviously, the doppleganger theory gets around this which is why it gets traction with some (but not most) Traditionalists, but having studied it I see no credibility or strong evidence for it.  There are unanswered flaws such as why all of the other sisters in the convent did not notice that a person had been swapped out for a doppleganger, or Lucia's family members or indeed what the Church gained by it for the HUGE risk of potential exposure, when compared to simply suiciding sister lucia in 1972 and saying she has died of natural causes.  The doppleganger didn't really do anything.  Sister Lucia simply dying (being killed) would be much less risky and still serve to take the spotlight off Fatima.

Re: The Age of Fatima
« Reply #9 on: January 08, 2019, 02:59:59 AM »
Fatima, or Garabandal?

http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2014/06/the-death-of-joey-lomangino-blow-to.html
I was commenting that if "Portugal will ALWAYS retain the dogma of the faith" has any meaning in light of modern day apostate Portugal, then Joey Lomangino dying blind could, theoretically, not falsify Garabandal.
God could after all resurrect Joey from the dead and restore his sight on the day of the miracle.  And likewise we could find out that there is a massive secret underground network of Traditionalists in Portugal with their own secret priests and bishops who have been keeping the faith since 1965 and marrying their sons and daughters to each other.
But judged by what is reasonable and visible neither such event seems very likely.
Prophecies are for man to judge with his own senses.  If we had supernatural perception we wouldn't need them.