The Portuguese website "Observador", one of the most important news and opinion websites in the country, published a special Christmas interview with the Bishop of the most populous diocese in Portugal, Oporto (Porto), Manuel Linda, and another theologian, a priest called Anselmo Borges. [Update: the wicked bishop has tried to hide his declarations by adding "clarifications" to the original piece; therefore, in order to preserve historical record, the original piece has been posted in our Repository.]
In it, they dismantle all "myths" related to Christmas, including its December date ("probably September"...), but the greatest scandal of all is the direct attack on several Dogmas related to the divinity of Our Lord Jesus Christ and the purity of His Immaculate Mother, the Blessed Virgin Mary.
The main passages are translated below (tip: local reader):
"He [Christ] was conceived by Mary and Joseph as any other person... Virginity is only associated with Mary as a metaphor to prove that Jesus was a very special person." ...
The Bishop of Oporto tells the Observador website that, "we should never refer to the physical virginity of Mary." "The Old Testament says many times that Jesus was to be born of a maiden, a daughter of Israel, who was simple, poor, and humble. But this is truly just a reference to the full devotion of this woman to God.The gift of being mother of God was given to Mary because she had an undivided heart. What matters is full giving of herself,"explains Bp Manuel Linda.
And he adds, "There certainly are women with a ruptured hymen who are more virgin in the sense of full devotion to God than some with an intact hymen."
RORATE: in better days, this heretic and blasphemer would be thrown out of his place by enraged Catholics, thrown into the sea for such grievous offenses against Our Lord, the All-Holy Virgin, and Holy Mother Church. Where's the Catholic laity of Portugal?
Linda was named auxiliary bishop of Braga by Benedict XVI in 2009, and was named Military Ordinary of Portugal by Francis in 2013, and again named by Francis this year as the titular bishop of Oporto, one of the most prestigious positions in the nation of Fatima.
So what does the "Dogma of the Faith will always be preserved" mean?Every country has its apostates.
Portugal is as un-Catholic and apostate as anywhere else in Europe. Has one of the lowest birthrates in Europe. Has ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ "marriage". It showed absolutely ZERO resistance to Vatican II and the loss of the faith thereafter. France did better and has a much large contingent of Traditionalists.
This prophecy was as incorrect as Joey Lomangino "getting his eyes back on the day of the miracle".
It's one thing not understanding a prophecy, but in the case of both of these prophecies we understand that they are false.
So what does the "Dogma of the Faith will always be preserved" mean?
This prophecy was as incorrect as Joey Lomangino "getting his eyes back on the day of the miracle".
The passing of Joseph Lomangino on the anniversary of the first apparition and also the last public message of Garabandal
6/18/2014- Lindenhurst, New York.
June 18, 2014 has marked the passing of Joseph "Joey" Lomangino, precisely 53 years ago to the day of the first alleged heavenly apparition (June 18, 1961) to four young girls in Garabandal, Spain.
The age of Fatima has truly arrived:They are not even valid priests, let alone bishops! The only thing these articles are good for is to show the few Novus Ordos of good will that the people they follow are not even Catholic.
Direct open denial of the Virgin birth. Boom. No longer a Catholic bishop. Or do we have to wait around for a higher authority to tell us that he is no longer a member of the Church. Hmmmmm.
Wonder how many other Bishops believe this? A semi truck load of them I would bet. You know all those ones that have that special proclivity that we have been hearing about lately.
Fatima, or Garabandal?I was commenting that if "Portugal will ALWAYS retain the dogma of the faith" has any meaning in light of modern day apostate Portugal, then Joey Lomangino dying blind could, theoretically, not falsify Garabandal.
http://www.mysticsofthechurch.com/2014/06/the-death-of-joey-lomangino-blow-to.html
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That is then a misleading statement...Greg! Hey man! Good reading your posts again! You're the man.
The good have not been martyred. Not in any significant numbers where they stand out from most other centuries. ... If the good are martyred, surely we notice don't we? Does the martyrdom of the good not imply an event where a sizeable number of "the good", presumeably faithful baptised Catholics, are martyred.Surely we don't notice! Are we believe that, because the MSM is not talking about it, that it doesn't happen that the good are martyred. Are we to believe that in the 21 century there are fewer martyrs than in previous ages?
That is then a misleading statement, since it contains the word always, which is superfluous to its meaning regardless of what one sticks on the end. Does Our Lady not know Portuguese grammar?
Surely we don't notice! Are we believe that, because the MSM is not talking about it, that it doesn't happen that the good are martyred. Are we to believe that in the 21 century there are fewer martyrs than in previous ages?I think there probably are fewer.
https://acnuk.org/china/
https://www.ucanews.com/news/cardinal-zen-calls-on-beijing-to-end-religious-persecution/75856
So let me get this straight.Have you seen the investigations into the Fake Lucia? This is the latest entry:
Our Lady appears, makes the Sun dance and we get a message about Russia and her errors, a few Christian martyrs, and World War II (though I don't think this was published until it was underway).
Nothing about the worldwide loss of faith we are now experiencing. Homo marriage and rampant fornication and very high divorce rates and children born out of wedlock.
Which has resulted in most souls lost to Hell. 1920 to 1965 or 1965 to present day?
You'd have to figure the last 50 years surely wouldn't you?
If the 3rd Secret is a warning about Vatican II and liberalism and they covered that up then how in the heck is John XXIII a canonised saint?
How did Sister Lucia sit silent and watch Vatican II happen (or Malachi Martin for that matter)?
Yes, I keep up with all things like this.Fair enough. Just wondering if you saw it. I'm not sure what I think of it. Personally, all I see of Fatima is division among Catholics.
I think it is nonsense, clutching at straws.
It is known by science that handwriting does indeed change over time.
So I reject their samples as evidence because, even if the handwriting is slightly different, so what?
Give me DNA analysis of the real and fake Sister Lucia Then I will believe there were two Sister Lucia's
The old and the "new" one always looked to me like the same person.
..So let me get this straight.
Our Lady appears, makes the Sun dance and we get a message about Russia and her errors, a few Christian martyrs, and World War II (though I don't think this was published until it was underway).
Nothing about the worldwide loss of faith we are now experiencing. [Not a sentence.].
Homo marriage and rampant fornication and very high divorce rates and children born out of wedlock. [Not a sentence.].
Which has resulted in most souls lost to Hell. 1920 to 1965 or 1965 to present day? [Not sentences.]
You'd have to figure the last 50 years surely wouldn't you?
..I don't see Fatima as particularly divisive. But what am I supposed to do now? 101 years have passed and nothing much has happened.
So, all I can do is wait and see whether God does something.
Keep my sandwich board polished and wait.
.Akita? If that was approved wasn't it approved by the Novus Ordo...around 1973?
What you're supposed to do now is to pray the daily Rosary.
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The fact that Our Lady's solid wooden statue was seen to cry real human tears exactly 101 times in Akita (an approved apparition) was mysteriously an integral part of the historical record. Maybe you didn't know about that. You didn't publish it. There has been much speculation as to what that number, 101, signifies, precisely. Since this year is 101 years since the Fatima apparitions, maybe this is the year we will find out what the 101 means.
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So keep your Lord of Sandwich board polished.
Akita? If that was approved wasn't it approved by the Novus Ordo...around 1973?.
..Been doing that since 1971
.Who approved Akita then? Same church hierarchy that approved the Novus Ordo and Vatican 2 , no?
Maybe you don't know how it works. "The Novus Ordo" isn't what approved Akita.
I’ve never seen any real proof that there was a fake Sister Lucia.Check out
Check outOh whoa.... that’s kinda crazy. But I don’t understand why they would do this? What would be the point exactly?
https://traditioninaction.org/HotTopics/g12htArt2_TwoSisterLucys.htm
http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/2018/08/fraud-facial-recognition-technology.html
The real Lucia has much fuller lips than the imposter. This, alone, proves there was an imposter "Lucia". The fullness of a woman's lips don't decrease that much in size due to age.I don’t know about that.. my great grandma has beautiful full lips when she was younger, but they were razor thin once she was older. I had to be very careful when I did her make up, and lipstick.
It appears to me that in order to defend Fatima we do all sorts of interpretation and selective reading and invent two-sister lucy theories, when at face value it is more innaccurate than accurate.While the investigation is not complete, Dr. Chojnowski http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/ (http://radtradthomist.chojnowski.me/) has already released some evidence that supports the theory that there was an imposter posing as Sr Lucy. Most people who are already convinced that there was an imposter believe that the switch happened before 1960. She was not seen in public from 1947 until 1967. There are no photographs of her for 20 years. Isn't that odd? As for her family, she was moved from the Dorothean convent (not cloistered) to the Carmelite convent in 1947. That is highly unusual. She took perpetual vows as a Dorothean. I think it would be highly unlikely that she would seek to be dispensed from those vows so that she could profess new vows in the Carmel. And conveniently the Carmel does not allow frequent visits from family and friends and when they do visit she would be required to be behind a grate. If you have seen pictures of the grate, you can see that it is hard to see inside of it. Dr Chojnowski has uncovered evidence that the Carmel was associated with Opus Dei (another shady organization). So the whole thing stinks. Sr Lucy was not in great health in the 1940s. I would not be surprised if she died in 1947 and Opus Dei took the opportunity to substitute an imposter at that time. The goal being to suppress the 3rd secret which probably reveals the fake council and the fake popes since Pope Pius XII.
To me, the most damning part of Fatima is the fact that Sister Lucia went along with the modernist changes and slobbered over JP2's hands in the most fawning way in June 2000. Obviously, the doppleganger theory gets around this which is why it gets traction with some (but not most) Traditionalists, but having studied it I see no credibility or strong evidence for it. There are unanswered flaws such as why all of the other sisters in the convent did not notice that a person had been swapped out for a doppleganger, or Lucia's family members or indeed what the Church gained by it for the HUGE risk of potential exposure, when compared to simply suiciding sister lucia in 1972 and saying she has died of natural causes. The doppleganger didn't really do anything. Sister Lucia simply dying (being killed) would be much less risky and still serve to take the spotlight off Fatima.
and the fake popes since Pope Pius XII.
Are you saying Pope Pius XII was a fake pope - an antipope?No. John XXIII, Paul VI, John Paul, John Paul II, Benedict XVI and Francis are all pseudo-popes. I wouldn't even call them antipopes because the antipopes of the past professed Catholic doctrine. But the Novus Ordo sect has pseudo-popes just like the Anglican sect has a pseudo-archbishop of Canterbury. Fake pope would be another term for the same idea.