Revisionist History Newsletter no. 51: Agents of the Money Power - Glenn Beck and a Gang of Christ-Hating Shylocks Have Taken Over the Conservative Movement in America. This is the fourth installment in Hoffman's series on usury (see Revisionist History Newsletter issues no. 46 and 34, and no. 12) Sections include: Free Enterprise vs. Predatory Capitalism; Ludwig von Mises - Antichrist; Usury and the Koran; 375% Interest on a "Cash Store" Loan. Also: "The Fatima Distraction: A 93-Year-Old Prophecy About Bolshevik Russia is Distracting From Christianity's 2,000 Year Struggle with Judaism." Plus: cινιℓ ωαr statistics; "Liberty Central Inc." And: Mercy vs. Revenge in Christianity and Judaism as revealed by Shakespeare.

Hoffman applies his Jєωιѕн myopia to Fatima and completely misses the point.  This is what happens when you focus all of your attention on one subject.  It becomes the lense by which all reality is viewed, the key that unlocks the secret of history.  The 2,000 year old struggle transcends even the Jєωs which are but one particular manifestation of the mystery of iniquity.  

It may very well be that the Fatima prophecy about Russia correponds to its Jєωιѕн revolutionary leaders who took over in 1917, but I agree that Mr. Hoffman views things only through one lens.

I appreciate the views of Michael Hoffman and have read his book "Judaism's Strange Gods".  

I would be inclined to completely discount his commentary on the Blessed Virgin's appearance to the children at Fatima.  BTW, I'm still woefully underinformed on Fatima - but that's going to change.

One can recognize the importance of Fatima while also recognizing that endless speculation over the "Third Secret" and the significance of the "Consecration of Russia" does serve to distract many people from the situation of the world today.

It's difficult to take calls for the Consecration of Russia entirely seriously when one looks at the current politics in the SSPX.

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One can recognize the importance of Fatima while also recognizing that endless speculation over the "Third Secret" and the significance of the "Consecration of Russia" does serve to distract many people from the situation of the world today.

It's difficult to take calls for the Consecration of Russia entirely seriously when one looks at the current politics in the SSPX.

If you believe that the current Magisterium is heretical and most of the bishops have invalid consecrations, then  they do not represent the true faith.    They could  not and really would not consecrate Russia.  

True.

Why do you think they won't release the Third Secret?

Because it condemns them.

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One can recognize the importance of Fatima while also recognizing that endless speculation over the "Third Secret" and the significance of the "Consecration of Russia" does serve to distract many people from the situation of the world today.

It's difficult to take calls for the Consecration of Russia entirely seriously when one looks at the current politics in the SSPX.

If you believe that the current Magisterium is heretical and most of the bishops have invalid consecrations, then  they do not represent the true faith.    They could  not and really would not consecrate Russia.  

True.

Why do you think they won't release the Third Secret?

Because it condemns them.

That is exactly the reason.  It predicted Vatican 2 - the Great Apostacy.  It needed to be reavealed by 1960, the year after V2 was announced because things would be clearer then, but Ratzinger says it was about JP2/Wojtyla.

Hmm.

Yep, I think exactly what you do!

I think the Third Secret of Fatima

It may well be important, but how do you know how it applies if you don't know what the secret is?  Endless speculation about it tends to distract people from facts they can know about things.

and the Consecration of Russia are not only very important, but do play a role in the situation of the world today.

I believe in the apparition of Fatima, but I have more doubts about the secrets.  When Bishop Fellay says we need 11 million rosaries for the Consecration of Russia, but hires some guy who publicly admires the singer Madonna Ciccone to be on the board of an SSPX girls' school, it's hard to take him seriously.

Say 11 million rosaries to consecrate Russia, but the Jєωs are our Elder Brothers, and Bishop Williamson is stuck in Wimbledon.

Sorry, but it's extremely difficult to this character seriously.  Bishop Fellay distracts people with talk about Russia while this other character consorts with Zionists.

Catholics need to be aware of what's going on under their noses, but speculating about things they can't know, like the Third Secret, distracts them from what's under their nose, and men like Bishop Fellay understand that.

I believe in the apparition of Fatima, but I have more doubts about the secrets.  When Bishop Fellay says we need 11 million rosaries for the Consecration of Russia, but hires some guy who publicly admires the singer Madonna Ciccone to be on the board of an SSPX girls' school, it's hard to take him seriously.

Say 11 million rosaries to consecrate Russia, but the Jєωs are our Elder Brothers, and Bishop Williamson is stuck in Wimbledon.

Sorry, but it's extremely difficult to this character seriously.  Bishop Fellay distracts people with talk about Russia while this other character consorts with Zionists.

Catholics need to be aware of what's going on under their noses, but speculating about things they can't know, like the Third Secret, distracts them from what's under their nose, and men like Bishop Fellay understand that.

I have to wonder if Hoffman doesn't say something similar to this (but again, the article appears to be criticized here without being posted to read(?) to judge this).

The reason I'm giving Hoffman the benefit of the doubt on this article's title is because I *can* think of ways in which Fatima could be used as a distraction, but do not know Hoffman's thesis.

I've wondered at the notion myself that people would be soo certain of Fatima's validity (which I believe) but doubt several conciliar Popes who venerate Fatima. You'd think they'd have put it in the Medjogorje bucket if it was so damaging to them. Its an odd behavior.