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NFP tailors the laws of God to the modern death-dealing state, it makes His laws contingent and based on circuмstances, which they are not.

So, you believe we should have absolutely no say so on child bearing?  We are in sin when we choose to not have sex?

Congratulations on presenting a logical fallacy known as the straw man.  You oversimplified and substituted a distortion of your opponent's position, attacking the substitution rather than the actual position.

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It's madness -- if we are going to allow people to not have kids because of their economic situation, or because the kid might turn out sick or deformed, we are playing God.

I think it's madness to play God too, which is what I see people doing when they are pointing fingers at others instead of taking care of themselves.  Why does it matter so much to some people what others are doing, when what truly matters is your very own relationship with God?

Teresa

Let me ask you something:  are you suggesting that there is no person on the face of the earth who has a sufficient relationship with God that he or she may know His will well enough to admonish others when they are contradicting it?

Is every person who admonishes the sin or heresy of others "playing God"?

Those are my only question for you at the moment Teresa, please answer them after collecting your thoughts on the matter.  Also, please consider that I am asking them in general, as they pertain to all situations, not simply as pertains to NFP, leave that aside for the moment, and I am sure you will wish to discuss it in the right place.

Gladius, it was not fitting to post this in the other thread, lest it be hijacked, so I posted in a new one.  And I linked in the old one to this, in case anyone else reading that thread would not have otherwise clicked here.

IWO, there's no lack of chill in this kat. :cool:  Just a concerted effort to be courteous and meticulous.