It is pretty basic that the Faith comes first. Obedience to God, obedience to the Faith, comes first, before obedience to men, even Popes and cardinals. We are never required to put our Faith in jeopardy. And in fact, we are FORBIDDEN to do so. To place oneself in a position where your Faith is assaulted, without good cause, is actually SINFUL in itself.

Those are the foundational principles of the Traditional movement. That is why I say, with all seriousness, that Indulters are not Trad. They don't agree with the Traditional Movement which started on Day One after the rollout of the New Mass and other rotten fruits of Vatican II.

Not to mention that any common sense Trad knows that the Crisis is not just about the Mass. It's about the entire Catholic Faith. The Mass changed after Vatican II because the Faith was changed into a new religion. The Mass is indeed the cornerstone of our religion. A new religion requires a new "mass".

So if you don't know something SO BASIC as "Faith is above obedience", "We must obey God rather than men", or "this new religion doesn't resemble the timeless Catholic Faith at all", then you are either A) ignorant or B) of low intelligence, or C) some combination of A & B.

As for Indulters being cowardly --

Here's the thing. I'm no hero. I don't know if I would be able to withstand torture. I'm sure that, like other human beings, I would need constant prayer and strength from God to endure such. I don't put myself forward as any kind of superhuman hero or saint.

BUT, that having been said, we haven't faced any torture or real suffering from the Conciliar authorities for adhering faithfully to Tradition. What are we expected to endure, as (true) Trads? Words. Lots of bad words. They call us disobedient, schismatic, radical, extreme and other WORDS. That's it. End of list!

And Indulters can't endure that! What a joke! If you can't endure a few mean words, how are you supposed to fight the World 24/7, which is CLEARLY completely against Christ and even His natural order of Creation right now. Protip: you can't. Which is why MOST Indulters are also horribly ignorant and worldly in other areas. They are generally cowards. When you are a coward, you flee conflict. You desire to go with the flow, to keep your head down, to avoid trouble. They are habitually disinclined and unable to inconvenience themselves in the slightest for God and His truth.

I'll repeat what I said years ago:

Being able to resist "human respect" (going against the world, your friends, enduring bad words said against you, etc.)
does NOT guarantee you will successfully endure torture for the Faith.

BUT, would it be logical to say that if you can't even withstand bad words, there is NO WAY you will be able to endure actual physical torture for the Faith?

It's an a fortiori argument.

If you're losing to the "words" or "names" right now, how could you EVER endure the "sticks & stones"?

He who can do the greater, can do the lesser.
But he that can't do the lesser, certainly can't do the greater.

If I can lift 100 lbs, I can certainly lift 10 lbs.
If I can lift 10 lbs, MAYBE I can lift 100 lbs.
BUT if I can't even lift 10 lbs, there is no way I can lift 100 lbs.

I think we can all agree:
enduring torture for the faith > resisting human respect

So all those resisting today, going against human respect, at least have a MAYBE on whether they will persevere, whether they could endure real persecution.
Meanwhile, those who have capitulated at mere names and threats, have a solid "NO".

I'll tell you why, because there are many Catholics from all walks of life from all over the world who are just finding
their way out of the novus ordo, who might have just discovered the Latin Mass, who are still trying to grasp
what the hell is going on. They vary in terms of curiosity, which takes a measure of courage but also grace, which enables discernment. Then if they make it entirely out of the indult they encounter another field of landmines
with all of the factions that make up R&R and sedevacantism, most of whom warn to avoid one another.

So perhaps one answer to my question would be: it depends on whether you're on the way up (towards Tradition) or on the way down (towards Conciliarism, Modernism, indifferentism, and other heresies and errors).

Someone who went to the Novus Ordo this week, and today finds himself at an Indult "Latin Mass", is on a good trajectory.

Meanwhile, someone who was associated with +ABL last week (Resistance, or SSPX back in the day) and today is attending the Indult, is on the way to apostasy. His trajectory is downwards, towards MORE acceptance by the world, MORE liberal views, etc.

We also endure little to no community. That's just way too much for many/most, and the rest of us do suffer greatly for it. People go protestant just for the friendship and community.

So true.

"Tell me why Indulters aren't cowards and or ignorant"

Why can't they both resist and be a part of the visible hierarchy? The TLM has been brought back, and there are traditional minded priests who say even the pre 55 and give traditional sermons from a diocesan church building. Anything else sounds unnecessary and schismatic.

Of course, I'd argue that the SSPX backs up the Indult, because if they did away with it, the SSPX would largely take them in, calling it a win. And the Resistance backs up the SSPX, because if ever the SSPX sank, people could go to the Resistance with little concern, and perhaps become a little more conservative at the same time.

Much less than the small ones, but yes, even the large chapels can have much suffering for lack of community. It takes a group effort. Walton, KY for example can about fill 4 masses with around 300 or more souls, but if they don't put forth the effort, community life suffers, and those who try to put forth the effort are met with disinterestedness, a lack of charity, or a lack of willingness to suffer to be selfless. They have limited parking there, which means people have to hurry up and leave, so that doesn't help matters.

"Tell me why Indulters aren't cowards and or ignorant"

Probably because they have no other choice to attend an Indult Mass since there are no Resistance or Sede chapels available to them.