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Offline stevusmagnus

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« on: October 01, 2009, 12:45:11 PM »
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Offline gladius_veritatis

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« Reply #1 on: October 01, 2009, 02:23:20 PM »
Nothing like a "fresh" perspective, stevie!

Why not just go sort through the archived folder at FE, where I (and others) came and went, discussing all kinds of interesting things at length, before you ever showed up?
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Offline CM

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« Reply #2 on: October 01, 2009, 03:31:18 PM »
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Offline Caminus

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« Reply #3 on: October 01, 2009, 04:12:08 PM »
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Likewise, the proposition which teaches that it is necessary, according to the natural and divine laws, for either excommunication or for suspension, that a personal examination should precede, and that, there-fore, sentences called "ipso facto" have no other force than that of a serious threat without any actual effect, false, rash, pernicious, injurious to the power of the Church, erroneous.


I've seen you misappropriate this before and let it slide.  This condemnation was directed at those who denied that ipso facto sentences has an intrinsic value or force.  No one here asserts this notion, therefore to put forth this as somehow material to the discussion is simply a straw man.

I guess it would be useless to add that the level of ignorance, presumption and carelessness among those who feel free to wade into the deep waters of theology and issue dogmatic decrees of condemnations of persons is shocking to say the least.  Such calls for responsibility are futile when dealing with the bitter zeal of a propagandist bent on establishing credibility for his pet theories.      
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Offline CM

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« Reply #4 on: October 01, 2009, 04:20:54 PM »
Caminus, if ipso facto excommunication is indeed real, then are you going to suggest that Catholic have no right to recognize it when it is publicly manifest?
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